With 1,000-plus points and nearly 500 goals, Patrick Marleau has been one of the most consistent scorers the league has seen over the duration of his career. Is he Hall of Fame calibre, though?
Patrick Marleau had a third period to remember on Monday night. Less than three minutes into the frame, he scored his 13th goal of the season. Minutes later, he potted goal No. 14. By the midway point, he registered the fifth hat trick of his career, and he capped the frame off with a fourth goal with less than four minutes remaining.
Marleau’s big night made him only the seventh player 35 or older in the past 30 years to score four goals in a night, and the first player to complete the feat since Martin St-Louis managed four goals against the San Jose Sharks almost three years earlier to the day, on Jan. 18, 2014.
It was just another feat in what has been a spectacular career for Marleau, and one that almost certainly ends with him being the last player to ever don No. 12 in San Jose.
He’s the Sharks all-time leader in goals with 497, in points with 1,060 and his 96 game-winning goals isn’t only the best mark in San Jose’s history, but the eighth-most in the recorded history of the statistic. He became the 83rd player in league history to score 1,000 points, has four playoff overtime winners to his name and captured a Western Conference championship with San Jose this past season. During his time as a Shark, Marleau has also won two Olympic gold medals, two World Championship gold medals and has added a World Championship silver.
Even will all that, though, it’s hard to say Marleau’s destined for the Hall of Fame, and he might be the perfect example of a player who would earn his way into the Hall of Very Good.
This is something that was touched on when Henrik Sedin was on the cusp of his 1,000th point, but one of the biggest deciding factors for the Hall of Fame can’t be points alone. There’s a multitude of reasons why that’s the case, but chief among them is that past scoring skews exactly how great a point-scorer some players were and that scoring alone shouldn’t constitute what a Hall of Fame calibre player looks like. Rather, there should be something discernible to show the player was, at one time or another, among or atop the very best players in the game.
For a player such as Sedin, he has the individual awards to prove his dominance. He won both the Hart and Art Ross Trophies during his fantastic 2009-10 campaign, and Daniel Sedin following up with an Art Ross of his own to go with the Lester B. Pearson Award is why he’s deserving to join his brother in the Hall of Fame one day. That’s not to mention that both Sedins were adjudged league All-Stars at season’s end in both 2009-10 and 2010-11.
For Marleau, individual accolades have been hard to come by. He didn’t capture the Calder as a rookie, his best finish in Hart voting was ninth-place in 2009-10, he came in eighth place in Selke voting that same season and he’s twice been the second runner-up for the Lady Byng. And while he’s represented the Sharks at three All-Star Games, he’s never been an end-of-year All-Star, though he came close in 2009-10, 2010-11 and 2013-14.
If a player doesn’t have the individual accomplishments, then sometimes it can be the team accolades that put them over the top in Hall of Fame contention. Everyone knows how that has gone in San Jose, though. Marleau has always been a fixture of the Sharks and one could argue a few of those teams were as true as title contenders come. The results were never there, though. All Marleau has to show in terms of team achievement is a Western Conference championship. That could change before Marleau hangs up his skates, but will that combined with his points even be enough?
Even if you wanted to debate Marleau’s Hall of Fame merits on points, it’s hard to see what would put him over the top. There are 31 players in the 1,000-point club who aren’t in the Hall of Fame, including eight active NHLers: Jaromir Jagr, Joe Thornton, Jarome Iginla, Marian Hossa, Patrik Elias, Alex Ovechkin, Henrik Sedin and Marleau. Of the 31 non-Hall of Fame 1,000-point players, Marleau ranks 30th in points per game, ahead of only Dale Hunter. When using Hockey-Reference’s point adjustment figures to help even out the change in scoring across eras, Marleau’s points per game only rises to 23rd, ahead of players such as Rod Brind’Amour, Brian Propp, Dave Andreychuk and Pat Verbeek.
And compared to the 1,000-point players, which includes both active and retired players who are no-doubt Hall of Famers like Jagr, Selanne and Ovechkin, Marleau sticks out. 26 of the 31 players have at least one or some combination of an end-of-year All-Star nod, individual award or Stanley Cup. Hunter, Propp, Bernie Nicholls and Jeremy Roenick are the retired players without any of the three, and among active 1,000-point scorers, Marleau is the only one who fails to check that box.
Marleau deserves to see his jersey retired in San Jose someday and he’ll go down as one of the greatest Sharks in franchise history. And when it comes to the Hall of Fame, Marleau might be close, but he’s not quite there.
Some teams we thought were going to be good are currently sitting outside the playoff picture. These are our picks for teams that will rebound in the second half.
With the all-star break this weekend, we're officially at the mid-way point of the season. Every NHL team has played between 44 and 50 games, and it's certainly time to start scoreboard and standings watching. Thanks to the NHL's artificial parity there are a lot of teams right on the playoff bubble.
That means some teams we thought were going to be good are currently sitting outside the playoff picture. With that in mind, here are our picks for teams currently on the outside that will sneak in come April.
Tampa Bay Lightning
Tampa simply has too much talent not to pick things up in the second half and sneak back in (its possession numbers put them in the top half of the league). Steven Stamkos has the league’s second-best points-per-game average, and he’ll be a huge boost when he returns from injury. They also have a nice trade chip in Ben Bishop that they can use to shore up the blueline (Kevin Shattenkirk, anyone?). This team very much reminds me of the Kings, one that knows there’s no need to blow it out in the regular season when playoff seeding is meaningless. Not only will the Lightning make the playoffs, they’ll make a strong push for the Cup. (Edward Fraser)
Los Angeles Kings
About this time five years ago, the Los Angeles Kings were mucking around the Western Conference, losing almost as many games as they were winning and flirting with both a playoff spot and disaster. And we all know how that turned out. After 46 games this season, the Kings are once again mucking around the west, winning a couple more games than they’ve lost, not able to score much and not looking like much of a contender. That will change. First of all, Jonathan Quick has to come back at some point and March seems to be the target date. So the Kings will win the trade deadline when a rested and motivated Quick gets back into the net. Second, the Kings are too good, too experienced and too pedigreed for this to continue. Look for the Kings to make a second-half surge, aided by a healthy Quick in the last quarter, and squeak into the playoffs. Just like they did five years ago. (Ken Campbell)
The Dallas Stars will have to pass four teams if they expect to make the post-season, but they have two of the best offensive horses in the league in Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin to lead the charge. I expect the Stars to do something about their goaltending before the trade deadline and when they do squeak in, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them favored if they matched up against Minnesota in the first round. (Brian Costello)
One could have been predicted the Lighting would take a step back this season, but not even the most bold prognosticator would have picked the Bolts to be last in the Eastern Conference with the all-star break in the offing. The injury to Steven Stamkos has hurt in a big way, but Tampa Bay still has an incredibly talented roster that is simply underperforming right now. That hasn’t been helped by the lack of consistency from either of their goaltenders. The good news is that with 34 games remaining, the Lightning are only five points out of the final Atlantic Division playoff berth and five points back of the final wild-card spot. That is far from insurmountable for a team that boasts Nikita Kucherov, Ondrej Palat, Jonathan Drouin and Victor Hedman. Stringing together a couple wins could have Tampa Bay right back in the mix. (Jared Clinton)
The Kings are hovering around a playoff spot right now and have been doing it without star goalie Jonathan Quick. Once he returns (a timeline would be nice, but what can you do?), Los Angeles gets a huge boost. Even though Peter Budaj has pretty good stats, I think the Kings will just play bigger with Quick back, because he can be that security blanket. Also, Anze Kopitar has four goals right now and there’s no way his pace stays that low. The big man is shooting at five percent right now, down from 14 percent the year prior. If he even moderately gets on track, the Kings will be back in the post-season, no problem. (Ryan Kennedy)
The trade deadline is only five weeks away and with the Blues and Lightning both struggling, they could be in the market to make some major trades. Perhaps, even with each other.
With the NHL's March 1 trade deadline nearly five weeks away, several notable pending unrestricted free agents are garnering considerable attention in the rumor mill. At this point, St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk and Tampa Bay Lightning goaltender Ben Bishop top the list of potential trade candidates.
According to Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times, things are quiet on the Bishop trade front. He thinks the 30-year-old netminder could finish the season with the Lightning. Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman suggested, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, a swap of Bishop for Shattenkirk.
Some of the stars mentioned as possible trade fodder still have term left on their contracts. For the last several weeks, Colorado Avalanche forwards Matt Duchene and Gabriel Landeskog were frequent subjects of conjecture among NHL insiders.
Duchene, 26, carries a $6-million annual cap hit through 2018-19. The 24-year-old Landeskog's is $5.5 million through 2020-21.
Pittsburgh Penguins netminder Marc-Andre Fleury has also been the subject of media trade talk. The 32-year-old is signed through 2018-19 at an annual salary-cap hit of $5.75 million. Because the Penguins want to protect Matt Murray in the June expansion draft, it's assumed they'll try to move Fleury at the trade deadline.
Having such noteworthy talent frequently mentioned as possible trade candidates provides some spice to a stagnant season for player movement. It remains to be seen, however, if any of those stars end up with new teams by the trade deadline. There are plenty of variables that must be addressed.
Until a week ago, the possibility of Shattenkirk being traded seemed absurd. The Blues were comfortably entrenched among the Western Conference playoff clubs. Despite his UFA status in July, it appeared they would retain him for the post-season.
However, the combination of Jake Allen's struggles in goal and a lack of skilled depth at center have the Blues in danger of tumbling out of playoff contention. That set tongues wagging that perhaps Shattenkirk could be in play.
Some pundits envision Shattenkirk being dealt as a rental player to a playoff contender so as to free up salary-cap space for a deal with another team for a goalie or center. Others speculate he could be moved in a one-for-one swap.
Bishop and Fleury should be attractive trade options for clubs seeking experienced goaltending help. But among the playoff contenders, only the Blues, Dallas Stars and perhaps the Calgary Flames could be considered possible landing spots.
Given Bishop's UFA status, clubs with interest in him won't be willing to part with very much. With the Lightning now at the bottom of the Atlantic Division and their playoff hopes fading, they could prefer a return that provides immediate help. Offering up a draft pick and a prospect won't do.
Bishop carries a no-movement clause, but he reportedly considered waiving it last summer to join the Flames. That deal feel through, but it does suggests he won't stand in the way of a deal to a club he deems acceptable.
As for Fleury, he could prove a worthwhile insurance policy this season for the Penguins. Murray's recent injury history could be a concern. They could decide to retain Fleury for the remainder of the season and worry about moving him once the playoffs are over.
Fleury's modified no-trade clause could also make it difficult for the Penguins to move him. If they can't find any trade partners before the June 17 due date for submitting their expansion draft protection list, they could buy out the remainder of his contract.
Duchene and Landeskog are younger assets who could prove attractive for clubs in need of scoring depth. The Avs' reportedly high asking price for both players, however, will complicate things.
While the Avalanche require a much-needed rebuild, Terry Frei of the Denver Postbelieves GM Joe Sakic shouldn't settle for lesser offers near the trade deadline simply for the sake of making a trade.
Duchene or Landeskog could be dealt before the deadline. However, the assumption of the punditry is Sakic could wait until this summer in hopes of finding better offers.
Rumor Roundup appears regularly only on thehockeynews.com. Lyle Richardson has been an NHL commentator since 1998 on his website, spectorshockey.net, and is a contributing writer for Eishockey News and The Guardian (P.E.I.).
2016 second-round pick Rasmus Asplund is getting valuable experience with Farjestad back home in Sweden, but he's looking forward to teaming up with Alex Nylander in Buffalo.
The best thing about the prospect world? There are very few “dog days.” The world juniors is in our rearview mirror, but here comes the CHL Top Prospects Game! I’ll be in Quebec City for the festivities on Monday, so stay tuned for coverage next week. As for bad news, while Hamilton, Oshawa and Regina make their bids for the 2018 Memorial Cup, the 2017 hosts from Windsor just found out key defenseman Logan Stanley (WPG) will be out long-term due to knee surgery, putting his participation in jeopardy. In the meantime, let’s take a look at some of the players with brighter storylines right now.
Rasmus Asplund, C (Buffalo): Though his world juniors ended with another disappointing fourth-place finish, overall it’s been a pretty good year for Asplund. Not only is he one of the top junior-aged scorers in the SHL, but the world juniors gave him another chance to hang out with Alex Nylander, his fellow Buffalo draft pick.
“It’s always fun to be on the same team as Alex,” Asplund said. “He’s an outstanding player and a good guy in the room, too. And now we’re both Sabres.”
Asplund was taken 33rd overall by Buffalo this summer and while it’s always fun to be drafted by the team hosting the event, the talented two-way center was getting approached for autographs the day before he was picked, giving him a preview of how knowledgeable the locals are.
“I was there for two months this summer and it’s an amazing hockey town,” he said. “Everyone is crazy about hockey so it’s going to be exciting to get there soon.”
Asplund is currently playing for Farjestad back home in Sweden. The squad is mid-table in the SHL, but for a young player with NHL dreams, Asplund is getting a golden opportunity to grow his game right now.
“It’s been a really good year for me,” he said. “I’m playing almost 19 minutes every game and in all situations, so the development has been outstanding. I’m taking steps every day.”
While Asplund and Nylander played on separate lines at the world juniors this year, they had chemistry at the tourney in 2016. And with the Sabres rebuilding and both players looking promising for the future, the two Swedish nationals could be starring in different shades of blue and gold very soon.
Mathieu Joseph, RW (Tampa Bay): It’s been a huge year for Joseph, who took silver at the world juniors with Canada. But the talented and energetic winger’s most lasting legacy may be his new franchise record point streak. Joseph has now gone 23 games without missing the score sheet, breaking QMJHL Saint John’s franchise record, which had belonged to Zach Phillips.
Mitch Vande Sompel, D (NY Islanders): I get the feeling Vande Sompel is in his element with the OHL’s London Knights. The offensive defenseman was acquired at the trade deadline from Oshawa and he already has seven points in six games for his new squad.
Daniel Sprong, RW (Pittsburgh): Injuries have devastated Sprong’s young career, so it’s good to see the kid back with Charlottetown and doing what he does best: putting up offense. Sprong has nine points in eight QMJHL games for the Islanders since returning from shoulder surgery.
Dakota Joshua, C (Toronto): It didn’t take long for Penn State to get knocked down a peg. Joshua and his Ohio State mates did the damage with two wins on the weekend and the hardworking center had four points in that span for the Buckeyes, who are climbing in the Big Ten.
2017 Draft Stars
Ian Scott, G – Prince Albert Raiders (WHL): It’s not often you hear a goaltender lauded for his leadership qualities, but that’s what some scouts see in Scott, whose big frame has won the Raiders games they shouldn’t have. Scott will get a chance to show off his stuff at the Top Prospects Game.
Dylan Samberg, D – Hermantown Hawks (Minn. HS): Scouts are having a lot of fun watching Samberg, a big, mean D-man in the Minnesota high school ranks. Along with his physicality, the University of Minnesota-Duluth commit is also a great skater – further boosting his stock.
Artyom Minulin, D – Swift Current Broncos (WHL): Along with forward Aleksi Heponiemi, Minulin is providing the Broncos with great value from their imports. A smart, two-way defenseman, Minulin leads the Swift Current blueline in points with 34 through 48 games.
Isaac Ratcliffe, LW – Guelph Storm (OHL): Ratcliffe showed deft hands in tight on a game-winner against Windsor on the weekend and at 6-foot-6, his mitts are impressive. The big left winger has seven points in his past eight games and leads the Storm in scoring.
Cameron Crotty, D – Brockville Braves (CCHL): A shoulder injury kept him out of the spotlight for a while, but Crotty is back and has three points in his past three games. The Boston U. commit is a puckmoving defenseman with good size and great skating ability.
2018 Draft Star
Bode Wilde, D – U.S. NTDP (USHL): There was a lot of hype around Wilde, who was seen as a potential No. 1 pick for the OHL before he committed to the NTDP. But the big defenseman has lived up to expectations, using his bomb shot and elite skating to get results. Wilde is committed to Harvard and Saginaw owns his OHL rights.