Janne Pulkkinen - 2008-03-02 16:26:52 ET
I agree with you James that Hossa has got his chances during many playoff runs, and he hasn't quite made the best out of them. So in that sense for sure he is a question mark, plus of course not concidered to be the toughest guy you can get. I still don't think Hossa trade was particulary made at the expense of depthness but, yes I agree, for sure at the expense of toughness. After all, penguins did get, and also sent away, two right wingers if you exclude Esposito's rights and the first rounder. And from the received one's I believe Dupuis fits well in much needed category of depthness? And the guy has relatively good, though bit short, postseason record. The downside is of course that both Christensen and Armstrong could have been good playoff workhorses for penguins in many years to come.
L Dawson - 2008-02-27 22:20:46 ET
The Blue Jacket fans and season ticket holders have been taken to the cleaners again..... We would love to see some sort of help or improvememt in player personel. But our new GM just gave up... We get very little respect from the NHL, now even our new GM seems to take us for granted... The fans are tired of wait until next year, the GM just doesn't get it.....
James Finney - 2008-02-27 21:36:09 ET
Steve, it's not about getting rid of prospects and the future - you're right they have plenty of that (until Malkin's contract is up, then they'll have to trade him or let him go). But they got rid of depth and toughness - bot of which are needed more in the playoffs than a scorer who is proven not to be that good in the playoffs. Also, I still say that Hal Gill hurts their defense more than helps it.
steve duncan - 2008-02-27 18:37:20 ET
Some thoughts about the Hossa trade. I don't think it was bad at all for penguins. Sure they gave up some talent and future, but like they haven't got it enough already? Staal, Malkin, Crosby not to mention talented blueliner Whitney. They really don't need another talented future prospect in some time to come, so why not give away Esposito's rights and a first rounder? Hossa just 29 years old at the prime of his career, is proven scorer and a great addition to already dangerous penguins offensive corps. Especially if penguins get to sign Hossa for a long term deal next summer, then for no doubt, they'll prevail as a winner in this deal. very very bad trade.have you noticed how teams like detroit and new jersey never make trades like this?
James Finney - 2008-02-27 15:25:12 ET
I think it's funny that people say the Penguins won. They got rid of depth and toughness for a player that has never performed well in the playoffs and they picked up Hal Gill - a 6'7" traffic cone who just makes their defense worse. I think the Caps won because they replaced everything they need (goalie, veteran center, toughness) and only gave up one player.
zach - 2008-02-27 14:16:55 ET
hossa's a penguin that wiked because there going to win the stanley cup this year booya
Robby Bonfire - 2008-02-27 13:02:55 ET
Rangers/Sather could never just promote a young D like Sanguinetti or Baranka from within the system. Acquiring outside players just puts your own system players on hold, that much longer. Also, NYR kept Straka, Malik, and Strudwick, and, regrettably, had to keep Mara, due to injury. Rangers might make a move in the standings in the next couple weeks with plugs Mara and Orr on the shelf.
Janne Pulkkinen - 2008-02-27 12:24:29 ET
Some thoughts about the Hossa trade. I don't think it was bad at all for penguins. Sure they gave up some talent and future, but like they haven't got it enough already? Staal, Malkin, Crosby not to mention talented blueliner Whitney. They really don't need another talented future prospect in some time to come, so why not give away Esposito's rights and a first rounder? Hossa just 29 years old at the prime of his career, is proven scorer and a great addition to already dangerous penguins offensive corps. Especially if penguins get to sign Hossa for a long term deal next summer, then for no doubt, they'll prevail as a winner in this deal.
Ethan Lesher - 2008-02-27 02:40:12 ET
It looks to me like the caps may have won the deadline cup this year. They picked up some solid players and a goalie without giving up anything real important. Plus they brought Giroux back to Hershey which was a nice move for us in Chocolatetown.
Gary D - 2008-02-27 01:34:28 ET
Very disappointed the Jokinen didn't move.
Wayne McKaig - 2008-02-26 23:04:46 ET
It will be an intersting off season for the Toronto Maple Laffs to see what they can do. I won't be surprised if they don't take Stamkos. They seem to enjoy all that off continent talent. Time will tell ..........maybe they will be contenders for the cup nest year. That is the Memorial or Allan Cup!!
Joe W - 2008-02-26 22:23:49 ET
Jerome Iginla was traded for Joe Niewendyk. two or three years later, Dallas won the cup, and went to the finals the next year. Also Montreal was dwelling around the basement in the east before Gainey came and now look where they are. I think theres more posotive than you think in Gainey.
John - 2008-02-26 22:04:13 ET
Why didn't the stars keep Halpern and then trade him to Vancouver. The Leafs could of shipped out Raycroft to someone and Kubina to Detriot with all their injuries?
Joe W - 2008-02-26 22:02:22 ET
I hate Brad Richards, but being a Dallas fan, I guess I'll learn to like him. Pitt. should'nt have done the Hossa deal. (they gave up too much) Hlavac....have fun in Nashville buddy.(Sarcastic, condisending tone)
boston paul - 2008-02-26 21:18:14 ET
well this was the worst deadline day iv seen boring!but at least the b's held on 2 kessle what a relife wow.new management did the rite thing agian this yr cuz it would b a shame to trade away our kids 4 a rental player.hats off to the av's good job boys if forsberg makes it to the line up the whole teams drinkin from the cup.canadians didnt get hossa ha ha gainy lol pitt will lose to the av's 5 games
Harry Freiberg - 2008-02-26 20:41:13 ET
Have the Sabres no money? Is it all spent on what they have? Their major asset now is Ruff...
Jamie Murdoch - 2008-02-26 20:18:28 ET
Man did Pittsburg get fleeced. They are barely going to be able to hold onto Malkin, Staal, Fleury and Crosby, so they wont be able to keep Hossa. Plus, Esposito was going to be a good young, cheap forward.
Xuthl - 2008-02-26 20:11:43 ET
Hey THN. Matt Cooke is not tough. He is a cheap shot artist, and it becomes necessary for ACTUAL tough players to fight his battles every night because he damn sure wonâ€™t do it!
Rob Lewis - 2008-02-26 19:23:55 ET
AP/BC, How many times can you use the term middling in one Caps reference? Some alternatives you could use are mediocre, average, ordinary, pedestrian....
Paul - 2008-02-26 19:08:59 ET
First Huet for the Sutherby 2nd rounder (GMGM fleeced MTL with that). Then Federov (pure rental, I mean he's going to be 39 in Dec). Now Cooke (a very gritty forward). Now if we can only get a decent tough Dman the Capitals will be a team to make a great push. I'm getting really excited :)
Steve Sexton - 2008-02-26 18:44:21 ET
ok the blues trade my favorite defenseman for a st louis kid known as an enforcer; im confused... didnt we need a scorer, a wing? got alot of faith in mr davidson but this one confuses me; couldnt they have dumped mckee for the same player and IF salvador had to go... get a scoring winger for him?
Scott Rhein - 2008-02-26 18:28:02 ET
If this is all the trading the Blues are going to do. The GM needs to be fired. You signed Jackman and just gave away Salvador. Who has the better record this season? The Blues need to act before it get any worse. Making trades like this won't help our playoff chances and looking at the other teams in the West. It just got a lot harder.
Brian Murphy - 2008-02-26 18:06:25 ET
Huet makes Washington a suprise team to go as far as the semis.
Alex McLeod - 2008-02-26 17:08:38 ET
Anyone have any ideas on what the Flames are doing at the deadline?
karen bradley - 2008-02-26 16:54:41 ET
where do you think hossa will go?ottawa,
Slapshot - 2008-02-26 16:36:54 ET
Philly had to do something. They are running out of healthy players faster than the Indians were running out of arrows at The Little Bighorn. Vinny won't send them on the 10 game winning streak they need right now to get back in the playoff race but he gives them half a chance. He also doesn't fit their style so I suspect he won't be around past the end of the season. As for Tampa they have never adapted to the NHL Post Lockout and now find themselves stuck in the middle of nowhere. Four players eating up half their cap $$. Just can't do it that way.
Pye - 2008-02-26 15:53:30 ET
So instead of 5 mil to Propsal, they gave Boyle $6+ mil and a NTC??? Yeah whoop-de-do, big deal. I mean, this is a team that is being run into the ground. Right now (Until Richards is traded), about 26-28 million in four players, and even with a Richards trade, there will be 3 players with long-term, $6 million +, and No-Trade Clauses. And it's not like there's a lot of depth on the team to fill in those spots behind Vinny and Martin. TB is spiraling, people, I don't expect a lot of them for 2-3 at the least
McGz - 2008-02-26 15:03:06 ET
Prospal wanted almost $5 mil a year, would you pay him that much on your team?
Marcus - 2008-02-26 14:47:54 ET
Prospal wouldn't re-sign with Tampa as long as Tortorella is the coach. If they are planning on keeping Torts behind the bench they had to deal him.
James Finney - 2008-02-26 14:23:27 ET
Philly won the deal, but it still wasn't a bad deal for Tampa to make. They get a good defense prospect for the future and possibly something good out of the draft. Not a bad deal for either side, but Philly won until Picard reaches full potential at least.
LoÃ¯c - 2008-02-26 14:12:47 ET
I also agree Tampa lost on that prospal deal... on a very short term. Anyway the problem in Tampa is deeper than this deal. I mean they overpay some of their players who fail in being as competitive as their first line (or just as competitive as the other teams' second or third trio). This leads to a big salary problem, so trading Prospal is a way to free some cap space for next season. They're way out of the race for the play-offs so keeping big salaries until the end of the season is completely useless. Instead, they've chosen to add a very talented young defensive prospect who is almost ready for the nhl and will have some time to play and develop with his new teammates. They're preparing for next season. That sounds finally quite smart, i think.
jakegoalie12 - 2008-02-26 13:48:00 ET
Fudjo, what the heck were you thinking?! TB managment wre TOTALY ignorant in not signing Prospal. It's their fualt they lost out on the deal because of their incapability to give Prospal a good deal.
fudjo - 2008-02-26 13:25:03 ET
The only way TB lost out on the Prospal deal was not being able to re-sign him. Since they couldn't, and since he's a UFA at the end of the season, they got a prospect they can really use and a draft pick that might turn into depth.
jakegoalie12 - 2008-02-26 13:09:58 ET
Tampa DEFIENTLY lost out on the Prospal for Picard and 2nd 3rd round pick deal.
Mario Roy - 2008-02-26 04:28:34 ET
Maybe Gainey will regret of putting all odds on Hossa, Prospal was a very good candidate for the Habs... He would have helped Montreal down the stretch, Koivu's not doing the job for all year.