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THN.com Playoff Blog: Did Talbot-Carcillo fight spur the Pens to victory?

Dan Carcillo of the Philadelphia Flyers fights Maxime Talbot of the Pittsburgh Penguins during Game 6. (Photo by Len Redkoles/NHLI via Getty Images)

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Dan Carcillo of the Philadelphia Flyers fights Maxime Talbot of the Pittsburgh Penguins during Game 6. (Photo by Len Redkoles/NHLI via Getty Images)

The Pittsburgh Penguins are moving on to the second round of the playoffs and they have a timely fight by Maxime Talbot to thank for it.

With the Penguins trailing 3-0 early in the second period and looking very much like road kill, Talbot decided to pick a fight with Daniel Carcillo and was obviously hugely overmatched. He lost the fight, of course, but his courageous effort against Carcillo galvanized the Penguins like never before in the history of their franchise and sparked them to score five unanswered goals to win Game 6 and take the series.

Does anybody actually believe this garbage? Evidently, yes. To be sure, the guys who work at Hockey Night in Canada, who had trouble containing their saliva glands after the fight, believe that was the case. For the rest of the game, all they could talk about was how the Talbot fight changed the course of the game and led the Penguins to victory.

What a bunch of hooey. If losing a fight could spark a team like that, then why didn’t Daniel Briere go after Brooks Orpik when the Flyers blew their lead and got down by a goal early in the third period? Briere could have gotten himself beaten up, but it would have inspired the Flyers into some kind of lather and they would have scored to tie the game.

The Penguins won the game and the series, not because of a meaningless fight between two marginal players. They won because somebody finally got the message through to Ruslan Fedotenko that the playoffs had started and the Penguins finally got some scoring from players not named Crosby and Malkin.

The Penguins got back in the game because Martin Biron started looking like Martin Biron again and Marc-Andre Fleury started looking like himself in the second period. The Penguins got back in the game because they realized they were giving up the blueline to the Flyers and stopped doing that.

The Flyers, on the other hand, started giving up the blueline to the Penguins and allowed their talented players to dangle around their zone. The Penguins got back into the game because they realized they have far more talent that the Flyers and began to use it.

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And most of all, it was Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin who led the Penguins to victory. Pittsburgh’s two best players were absolutely dominant in the game. They have both been terrific throughout the series and took control of the game, which could provide an interesting portent for the rest of the playoffs if they continue to play the way they did in the first round against the Flyers.

But go ahead and believe it was because of a meaningless fight between Maxime Talbot and Daniel Carcillo if you wish. You certainly won’t get any disagreement from the people who work for Canada’s national broadcaster.

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Dawn Barto Posted
(2009-04-30 08:32:25)



This is probably boring, but maybe I'm onto something...it's the endorphins! Just like a runner's high, the guys react to the fight and the feeling it brings to see Max "sacrifice" himself, and that's what gets things going in a different direction...maybe?
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Michael Metrik Posted
(2009-04-30 08:32:08)



My only comment about the game is this: Crosby scores two, his line has at least 6-7 good quality chances, and he goes 20 of 33 on faceoffs...and they can't even give him a lousy G.D. star? And to anybody who considers Sid a whiner, just change that long "I" sound to a short "I" sound, because the kid's a winner.
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Tom Posted
(2009-04-30 08:32:01)



Talbot may have lost the battle.....BUT HE WON THE WAR!!!!!! WoooooooooHoooooooooo........Go Pens!!!!!!
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David Zuba Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:51)



Here you go again Ken, Mr. Anti-Fighting. Any true hockey fan knows that the momentum of the game shifted after that fight. Plus, any true hockey player knows that when one of your teammate's puts his butt on the line for you, like Talbot did against a tough fighter like Carcillo, you respect that and it energizes the entire bench. Ken, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. If Carcillo were any kind of a smart player, he would have politely turned Talbot down and said "sorry Max but I know what you are trying to do, but we are up in the game and need a game 7 to beat you guys, so no I will not fight you." Well maybe not in so many words, but you get the point. Any hockey player will tell you that in that situation, if you are Carcillo, you do not give your opponent any chance at turning the tide and momentum of the game, especially when you need to win the game in order to force a seventh and series-deciding game. Just pure stupidity on Carcillo's part and pure stupidity by Ken Campbell for not recognizing this aspect of the game.
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jrm Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:15)



Sidney(oh sorry all you tough flyer fans..Cindy)Beats those tough Braod Street bully Flyers again...Oh an the "Crosby sucks" chant at Wachovia all game long please keep it up it seems to be working back to back playoff wins, 8 points in the series and more points against the Flyers that any other NHL team...Yeah Crosby Sucks!!!!LOL...Have a nice sumer Flyer fans...
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mokgohan Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:12)



Whoops! I just called him Maxine- now that's funny.
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flyers Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:12)



this guy clearly has never played hockey
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TonyT Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:11)



Whether that fight actually had this much meaning to the Penguins is debatable. Bottomline in my opinion is that Carcillo shouldn't have even been in that fight. It was a dumb time to fight with nothing for his team to gain in terms of momentum (already up 3-0).
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mokgohan Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:11)



If Mr. Talbot's suicidal taste in dance partners was not to inspire and rally his team, then why exactly would he have chosen to go at that particular time with that particular beast? It was a small spark but a spark non the less, which led to a larger spark and eventually a fire. As a hockey player, I know all about momentum and inertia, reeling on your heels and pouring it on. Maxine Talbot serving himself up as the sacrificial lamb was a clear display of competitive spirit, and one of the reasons I love hockey. No, the fight didn't win the game- but it helped.
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Borat Posted
(2009-04-30 08:31:10)



When a player takes on an enforcer, a top PIM guy that inspires the rest of the team to wake up and score some goals. It is hockey 101. It is not even debatable it is a game changer.
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