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THN.com Blog: All-star stuffers should mean the end of fan voting

The Flames' Dion Phaneuf won't be on the West's All-Star Game roster, but Jarome Iginla will. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

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The Flames' Dion Phaneuf won't be on the West's All-Star Game roster, but Jarome Iginla will. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

The NHL has reached the tipping point with All-Star Game fan voting. It needs to be scrapped. Now.

With the league insisting all 30 teams be represented, the game is already watered-down. With only six open spots available on each 21-man roster, allowing fans to determine the starters is akin to letting ice cubes melt in an already weak drink.

A few years back, the NHL got a glimpse of the future when a fan-based Internet campaign almost got journeyman defenseman Rory Fitzpatrick voted in. Conspiracy theorists suggest the NHL manipulated the results to ensure Fitzpatrick didn’t make the grade. The player himself was publicly uncomfortable with the possibility.

This season the problem was taken to new heights. Eleven players - all either Canadiens or Penguins, including the yet-to-play-a-game-this-season Sergei Gonchar - surpassed Jaromir Jagr’s 2000 record of 1,020,736 fan votes. And just four teams - Anaheim (three players), Chicago (three), Montreal (four) and Pittsburgh (two) - are represented in the starting lineups for the Jan. 25 event.

Crosby led all vote-getters, topping 1.7 million votes. Malkin nearly matched him. The four Habs averaged about 1.4 million votes each. None of the other players with one million-plus votes were named reserves. The Hawks and Ducks starters averaged just 747,000 votes each, but took all the spots in the West.

In the old days, chad-punching homers voting with their hearts rather than their heads were the problem. Now the NHL has to fend off computer-hacker homers to ensure roster legitimacy. Luckily, most of the starters are legitimate all-stars, but some are debateable; some laughable.

Jonathan Toews will be good, maybe great. But he’s not yet Henrik Zetterberg, Marian Hossa or Patrick Marleau. Scott Niedermayer is a Hall of Famer, but Duncan Keith and Brian Rafalski are more deserving this year.

Jean-Sebastien Giguere has a Conn Smythe Trophy and a Stanley Cup on his resume. But he’s had better seasons when he wasn’t named an all-star and is being outperformed by others, especially rookie Steve Mason. Mason, at least, will be in the Young Stars Game, but it would have been fun to see the wunderkind in the skills competition and the big game.

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In the East, forwards Simon Gagne, Mike Richards, David Krejci, Phil Kessel, Nicklas Backstrom (another Young Star) and Alexander Semin lost the numbers game. But Alex Kovalev - having another predictably pedestrian season - will be there. And while I respect Mike Komisarek’s game, the dynamic Mike Green is more All-Star Weekend-worthy than any shutdown guy, anytime.

Montreal Canadiens owner George Gillett Jr. defended the voting process.

"There is obviously some suspicion that something nefarious was going on (but) I don't think so at all," he told NHL.com, before saying there are 7.5 million “huge hockey fans” in Quebec.

But even Gillett admitted something doesn’t quite smell right.

"There were players that were perhaps not selected to the starting lineup that you might say, 'Hmmm,' ” he said.

Let’s just be happy the enthusiastic stuffers weren’t Thrashers and Predators fans.

With that in mind, I offer a solution: Have NHL players, coaches and GMs vote on who should represent the best hockey league in the world at its All-Star Game. Then open the starting-lineup voting to fans a couple of weeks prior to the game.

Make the announcement an in-game event. Make a big deal of it. Keep the starters secret and give them prizes of some kind (Alex Ovechkin. Come on over! You’ve won your very own Segway. Sidney Crosby, you get your own apartment!). Make it fun. With some spontaneity and humor, it could be the NHL’s Golden Globe Awards.

Because, really, who cares who starts the All-Star Game, as long as the best players are there? And since the 30-team rule already makes that difficult, the NHL shouldn’t let electronic ballot-stuffers make it impossible.

John Grigg is a copy editor with The Hockey News and a regular contributor to THN.com with his blog and the Top 10.

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Sam Golden Posted
(2009-04-30 07:41:15)



Surely it would be the right thing to do to end fan voting - that is, if you cared so much about the all-star game from an athlete's perspective. But the NHL wants to sell its product, and they want the fans to be part of it. In this age of interactivities, it would mean a giant leap backwards for the NHL if they abolished fan voting - even if people are as ignorant as the Habs fans.
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Kay Rooker Posted
(2009-04-30 07:41:00)



All 30 teams represented, eh? I am an avid Avalanche fan and last year I went to the All Stars game in Atlanta and guess who DID NOT HAVE A PLAYER on the roster? We had players who suffered injuries and could not go and did they replace them with others from our team, NO, the West brought in Teemeu Selanne who had not even played most of the season to that point because the was contemplating his "retirement". It is absolutely unfair to us fans who travel many miles and spend many dollars to attend the festivities to not even have one of our team's player on the roster. I say the 30 teams represented IS A MUST. Also, what about having it one year in the East and the next in the West. Not right that we Westerners have to travel to the East again this year. Yes, I will be in Montreal at the game - do everything in my power to not miss this event each year. Loved the idea of waiting until the last minute to announce the winners and making it special for the players and for us fans also.
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Jeff Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:34)



Frankly I don't care if a team's fans stuffed the ballot box. I responded to a friend's blog entry this way: I agree with Nicklas Lidstrom. "That doesn't really bother me at all," Lidstrom said. "It's something I really don't think that much about." Granted he said that about not being voted into the All-Star Game, but it's the way I think about it (the All-Star Game) overall. It's an exhibition game, a frivolity, and I'm not the least bit critical of it. So what players make it in or don't make it in, I couldn't care less.
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Alex L Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:33)



I like the idea of naming the team first, then opening voting for the starters. I could see fan voting count for having players on the squad, where the fans could vote for a few added to basic squad. On the publicity end, I do think all teams should be represented. Maybe we have to add a roster spot or two. Can we not extend the benches for the game?
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WR Jonas Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:29)



I offered a comment earlier about the ASG and I guess it was not clear what I was suggesting. The experiment in format between Europeans vs North Americans was quite awhile ago . I'm guessing 10 or 12 years ,perhaps longer. But the concept will be revived as the pressure to expand the NHL in Europe will necessitate a different approach in showcasing an ALL STAR competition. I would not be too surprised that a 6-8 team league would be added as the EURO- CONFERENCE in the next 10-15 years . It is my opinion that flirting with European franchises would be a disaster. I believe the league should stabilize for quite awhile before considering further expansion. The fans seem to be okay with the current balloting and it is nothing anyone takes too seriously, least of all the players . I enjoy the apparent camaraderie between the competitors.
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Flyer guy Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:26)



The Fitzpatrick thing was meant to show how dumb fan voting is. I keep reading about how it is the same as what the Habs fans are doing, it's the opposite, the guy was trying to show what a dumb thing it is to allow fans to repeat vote. Habs fans are just trying to load up the team with homers. I personally don't really care, I wouldn't watch and all star game if I was paid to.
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TOM COTNER Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:22)



The journalist is on the money and it's been said before that the NHL All-Star game is an unneccessary joke, much like the other main sports in that it is only an exhibition of zero value and a poster for the U.S. network that shouldn't have the rights to telecast our sport. Why Bob Costas is assigned to the broadcasts is a mystery since he has little knowledge of the sport, ah, but he does make for good ratings. BOO NBC !!! If a network desires to cover the game, they should from the beginning of the season, not on January 1st, then only a handful of other games for the remaining regular season plus the playoffs. I just can't wait for some nut at that network to introduce a Charles O Finley orange colored hockey puck, so that morons who don't get it, can follow along like a bouncing musical note on the sing-a-long chart. Hey, it would be reminiscent of the other networks blue and red darts that was aired depending on the velocity of the shots taken. Now as far as the all-star game goes, the only voters of the players elected to play should be the players themselves in a league wide tabulation 2 weeks before the event, along with the coaches for each team, the owners for each team, and the media which covers each of the 30 teams. By account, there should be 600 player votes, 150 coaches votes, 150 owner votes, and 10 media votes per team from the television, radio, and newspapers coverage booths; for a gran total of 1200 votes. All 30 teams SHOULD NOT NECCESSARILY be represented, and there should only be 18 skaters plus 2 goalies per side; just like a typical regular season game. And the biggest insult to the real fans is the "let's do it for hollywood" attitude of most of the players thanx to a mandate by the league, as they are only looking "to keep peace" with the major U.S. network. The real fans will say that if they are gonna play a game, then play it for real and let the chips fall where they may. This idea that we have to be continuously conscious of the ratings is rediculous and should be scrapped. Our sport is always foing to be #4 and that is the unfortunate fact. Where does the sport rank in Canada, #1 right ??? Geez lapeetz, how did all the smart folks wind up north of the border ???
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Danny Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:15)



I agree with Craig....let the numbers do the talking. They should select the all stars based entirely on the stats for the current season. This would leave out some players who would be expected (if they were having a bad season) but would surely include some unexpected and deserving players with less of a high profile in the league. I absolutely think they should also do away with the 30 team participation rule. If nobody on your team merits being included in the all star game based on performance up to that point in the season THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE. Honestly, that seems to be the elephant in the room as far as I'm concerned at each all star game. Every year there is a player there from a team that sits at the bottom of the standings in its conference, has lost more than twice as much as winning, and has nobody on the team deserving of playing in the all star game based on league player stats. This really needs to change.
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Ian Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:15)



It is an ALL-STAR game, not a FAN Favorite game and not a Players from the Best and the Worst game. The game should be based on Current Stats, not last years stats and none of the voting junk. Have the fans vote for the starting line up. If the Islanders leading scorer has 8 points, why should he go? Does that make the Islander fan happy? He probably won't touch the puck while there. Luongo goes but not Kipper? Seriously? Let's showcase the league and the top talent in the ALL-STAR Game, not the scrubs.
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icebunny911 Posted
(2009-04-30 07:40:14)



It is a shame that the NHL doesn't have more poster boys to promote the sport of hockey. (That way more players would be seen through out the country). It is also sad that the best NHL players will not be the starting line-up. I think the NHL should get rid of the fans voting and let the coaches & players vote for one player per team only. Than let the coaches pick the 3-4 extras that are needed.
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