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Rumors have Ryan Miller interested in heading to Motown as a free agent when his contract expires. (Photo by Rick Stewart/Getty Images)

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Rumors have Ryan Miller interested in heading to Motown as a free agent when his contract expires. (Photo by Rick Stewart/Getty Images)

Summertime. Attention span short. Too many distractions…umm…outside window. Here’s blog, in spurts:

• The American League is experimenting with a one-minute penalty rule in overtime next season, a modification Anaheim GM Brian Burke, among others, has been promoting.

The logic is basic: the overtime punishment doesn’t fit the crime, at least not proportionately. If the application is successful, I’d like to see the ‘A’ try one-minute penalties for lesser infractions during regulation time, such as clearing the puck over the glass.

As things stand, a two-minute minor for that transgression is too strict when compared to a two-minute minor for, say, a hook that nullifies a scoring chance.

• Phoenix re-made its image, to an extent, by signing noted fighters Brian McGrattan and Todd Fedoruk. With NHL 2007-08 PIMs leader Dan Carcillo already in the lineup, the Coyotes will be ready to rumble on a nightly basis.

The question is, will it help fill seats? And will it help fill the ‘W’ column?

• There’s some support in our office for an Ottawa rebound in 2008-09, due in part to their subtractions (namely Ray Emery and Wade Redden) and additions (namely Jason Smith and Jarkko Ruutu).

I’m not feeling it, not yet. Watching the Sens roll over in the second half of this season and die in the first round of the playoffs, I wonder if they’ve done enough to exorcise their ghosts.

• Four near-the-end-of-the-line superstars are still deciding whether they want to play next season. Given your druthers, who would you choose for your team for 2008-09? Here’s my order of preference, listed with their ages:

1.    Mats Sundin, 37
2.    Joe Sakic, 39
3.    Teemu Selanne, 38
4.    Peter Forsberg, 35 (on July 20)

As for career distinction, this would be my reshuffle:

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1.    Sakic
2.    Forsberg
3.    Selanne
4.    Sundin

• For the second consecutive summer, the Nashville Predators have an ownership mess, underscored by a dearth of activity in free agency (as in zero this year).

While GM David Poile, head coach Barry Trotz and their staffs deserve heaps of credit for prevailing under difficult circumstances, the constant franchise turmoil is unseemly and telling.

While there is a faction of concentrated, good fans in the region, NHL hockey still isn’t working in Music City.

• The Chicago Blackhawks say they intend to start the season with Cristobal Huet and Nikolai Khabibulin sharing the workload in goal.

Really? Maybe they have to promote that front for political reasons – and what if Huet gets hurt or crashes? – but the scenario feels an awful lot like the Vesa Toskala/Andrew Raycroft situation last summer in Toronto.

Everyone knew the Maple Leafs acquired Toskala to be the No. 1 and that Raycroft’s days in Toronto were numbered, even if management wouldn’t admit it.

• With the Red Wings having big contracts to sort out for 2009-10 – Henrik Zetterberg and Johan Franzen among them – my question is will they be able to afford goalie Ryan Miller, too?

There has been significant buzz the Lansing, Mich., native will eventually go home as an unrestricted free agent, but GM Ken Holland will have to do some fancy cap dancing to make it happen.

Jason Kay is the editor in chief of The Hockey News and a regular contributor to THN.com. His blog normally appears every weekend.

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Sandy W (Posted 2008-07-14 14:24:31)
I'd like to know how not signing any free agents means that hockey is not working in Nashville. That makes a whole bunch of sense. Have you never watched the videos of Preds fans at the games nearing the end of the season? Have you not read the articles from writers everywhere that say it was the most magical building they have ever been in? I guess not. And the so-called ownership problems we are having. Del Biaggio is bankrupt and owns about 1/3 of the NHL in one team or another. If we are having ownership problems, then so is every other team that he has claims with. Yes, he wanted to move us but the local owners stepped up and said there is no way that can happen. Really can't move a team from jail can you? I thought we were passed the negativity towards the Preds. We proved ourselves. One of only five teams to consecutively make it to the playoffs. Every team has struggles and we have sure had ours but the fans and the team have come together better, bigger and stronger. Just take a second and you will see it.

Alex L (Posted 2008-07-14 14:07:56)
The Sens pretty much have to rebound. The distractions (Emery, Redden, McGrattan, Paddock) are gone. The veterans are good, and the kids (Foligno,Bass,Lee) look good. The goaltending is not spectacular, but Gerber is a solid starter and Auld slots well as a backup. The defence is going to be a work in progress, but adding Smith means the defence should be okay, especially in blocked shots. And, don't forget, it's the Eastern Conference....

Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-07-14 11:25:17)
Ummm, you should probably check your facts before telling someone to check their ignorance. No team in the history of the NHL has sold out 82 games in a season because no team has ever played 82 games in one season AT HOME. Even including preseason games and 4 seven game series where a team has home ice advantage through the playoffs, it still only works out to somewhere just over 60 games. Miller isn't coming to Detroit unless he is willing to take a lot less than what he can get on the open market. Ken Holland has said that with the salary cap being what it is and the Wings D being what it is, the best use of money for the Wings is to sign a solid, not superstar goalie for less money. Nashville isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The fans there are good fans. I know there are less of them than in, say, southern Ontario, but given time I think Nashville will develop into a solid market. Florida will move before Nashville, and so will Atlanta. For me, Brendan Shanahan ranks tied for second for his career with the other older guys, with Forsberg, and Sakic atop the list. I'd put him 4th for who is a better player right now, ahead of Forsberg. Forsberg would be a great addition to any team right now if the season were eight games long and spread over 4 months. He's just hurt too much to matter anymore. Ottawa will continue to sink, but will make the playoffs.

Terry (Posted 2008-07-14 07:44:37)
Hey Dale, Shanny might fit in the top 50. Why do you think the Wings got rid of him. Not 1 Ranger scored 30 goals last season. From now on he will just go to the highest bidder. Washed up.

T.Roy (Posted 2008-07-14 07:29:42)
NHL.com is now talking about Jimmy Howard fighting with Conklin for the backup spot of Osgood. Now your going to consider Miller in the mix. I guess if anybody could figure it out the Wings management can. May the best goalie hopefully do the best job. They got Vernon, Osgood, and Hasek right.

John (Posted 2008-07-14 02:11:07)
Jeez Joey from fish city, i'm from boston and i'm not even pluggin the bruins... what r you doin slammin detroit? i am a die-hard bruins fan but this past decade has been one loooong disappointment. maybe when the bs management open up their wallets things might change. but shhhh joey for the love of god

Lamar (Posted 2008-07-14 00:25:40)
To Chelsea Lohr: Yeah, and Golisano will only sell to someone who won't move the team, The Bills will stay in Buffalo and soon we'll have a booming local economy here in Western New York! HA Then let's get an answer to the question - why does every pro athlete that plays here want out? And I'm tired of them all saying what a great place Buffalo is, Buffalo's best attribute is it's most damning flaw, it is a big small town. And until the flow of our best and brightest minds quit leaving town for brighter futures, to go ANYWHERE ELSE, it will remain so. The leaders and movers and shakers in our fair Queen City of the Great Lakes have a terminal case of "dumb arse", most especially Larry Quinn, Darcy, TG and it may be an epidemic. Stupid is as stupid does, Forrest!

big buck (Posted 2008-07-13 21:24:54)
i agree that maybe the punishment does not fit the crime sometimes as far as penalties go, but here is another thought...with the nhl players all geting bigger, faster, stronger, as is every sport, why not play all regulation even strength time in a game with only four skaters on the ice. when a penalty is called revert back to the system now...five on four, five on three, etc. heck it may even result in more goal scoring...a novel idea for the nhl.

The D (Posted 2008-07-13 21:21:44)
Hey joey from fish city ya bum, how many cups have the Bruins won? Ya thats what I thought... WINGS 11.. Eat it plug!

joey from fish city (Posted 2008-07-13 20:49:33)
Wow!! Detroit with 17 straight playoff appearances. Talk to me when you approach 29 as the Boston Bruins did back in the day when Hockey Town was anyting but. Detroit is Loserville compared to Beantown where champions live.

Brandon (Posted 2008-07-13 19:22:12)
I agree with Tiffany, I had the same experience in Nashville. It makes me scratch my head every time I read a sports writer's take on Preds fans: that they're nearly non-existent. It's simply, totally not true. As for the Coyotes.. Why are 3 fighters necessary? Shouldn't they have found a scoring replacement for Vrbata rather than sign Fedoruk?

Steve (Posted 2008-07-13 16:56:33)
Here's why one minute penalties make sense both in overtime and in the playoffs. The NHL uses different yardages for penalties with a comparable effect as penalty minutes in hockey. It makes sense to change the length of the penalty based on the severity of the infraction as the NHL already does it (major vs. minor). Why then could we not go and create a difference in the length of minors? Also, with regards to the Nashville situation, would the person saying that the situation is not a mess please clarify that they are not in fact the Predators PR man.

Tiffany (Posted 2008-07-13 13:20:51)
I visited Nashville last fall on business and may a it a point to attend a Preds game. I loved it. The electric feeling in the building, the fans are enthusiast and a spirited bunch. If I lived there, the first thing I would do is become a season ticket holder. The fans of Nashville appreciate and love their team, and if you have ever attended one of their games you would agree. Instead of you columnists sitting at your computer typing doom and gloom stories about team. Get to Nashville, attended a game write most balanced stories and let's help this team succeed.

Melissa Hungerbuhler (Posted 2008-07-13 12:52:13)
In last season’s NHL playoffs in overtime, the referees often got to decide the winner by suddenly calling a penalty after not calling anything. I saw this happen in both conferences and it makes me sick. A player would be cut and bleeding and nothing would be called, then someone would nudge a goalie and get two minutes. This rule might make sense if they are going to swallow their whistles in overtime. It would make the refs inconsistent calls half as likely to determine the outcome.

STEVE (Posted 2008-07-13 11:05:31)
The Coyotes should do much much with their attendence now that they have structured their ticket prices to the demand. Weekend games will all sell out but during the week it is very difficult as the arena is located in a area where their is too much traffic in order to get their during rush hour. With three very tuff hockey players on one line it should saend a message that we will fight to win and will bully a lot of teams to fall down.

Chelsea Lohr (Posted 2008-07-13 10:44:47)
This is to all of you that are ignorant enough to think that Ryan Miller is going to sign with Detroit as a UFA....IT"S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!! Miller is in Buffalo to stay, he's talking with the Sabres now and he'll sign with us. Everyone stop with the stupid rumors that Miller is going to Detroit!

Hayden Moher (Posted 2008-07-13 10:36:34)
Wow 4 years in a row. Do you guys want a ribbon or something? the Red Wings have made 17 straight appearances in the post-season,New Jersey& Ottawa 11, Dallas 5, and Calgary& San Jose 4. And of those teams, ALL of them have won at least one playoff series, unlike the predators. I do agree that Barry Trotz is a very good coach, and if he were with a better team he would definatly do some great things. But as long as he's with nashville, he'll always be golfing in early April.

Rosie Bradford (Posted 2008-07-13 09:38:03)
ATTENTION ALL NAYSAYERS.........THE WHEELS HAVE NOT COME OFF (OR SHOULD I SAY THE BLADES?!?!?) FOR THE NASHVILLE PREDATORS! The ownership situation is NOT a mess (Local ownership is taking care of the DelBeaggio situ as we speak). We have resigned our core players and have a VERY promising group of young players biting at the bit to wear the Preds jerseys. Even through all the turmoil last year we gave the Red Wings all they wanted in the playoffs (most "experts" didn't even think we'd be there)! Barry Trotz DESERVED the Coach of the Year award! The fans love this team (loudest in the NHL!!!) See ya in the playoffs for the FIFTH year in a row! GO PREDS!!!!

Ted LaPlante (Posted 2008-07-13 08:34:33)
I think that Ottawa will rebound this year, too much talent about and distractons are gone. In Vancouver, they need one more piece to become a contender, their character will have to change with the exit of Naslund and Morrison and the Sedins must carry the team. Please remind me, how much is the salary cap increasing for 20008-2009? Mr. T

yak (Posted 2008-07-13 08:29:18)
Finn - you're right, Winnipeg did not fill the rink for the preseason tilt with the Leafs and the Coyotes. That's because...it was the Leafs and the Coyotes! The only thing worse to watch would be the Leafs versus the Leafs! I'd rather watch Columbus and...oh, say Nashville?

donsol (Posted 2008-07-13 07:56:24)
Everyone needs to know that "Gord Puquenutts" is just a troll who's trying to get everyone all geared up. And it's pretty obvious that he's just pretending to be Canadian (check out the atrocious spelling, punctuation, and grammar!). It's best to just ignore him so please don't feed the troll. He doesn't realize that xenophobia is spelled with an "x" and thus his attempted pun linking "zenaphobia" with "Zena: The Warrior Princess" (played by Australian Lucy Lawless) and the word "zebra" in reference to referees is more sad than anything else.

Skank (Posted 2008-07-13 02:58:14)
Didn't you year? We DO have a team in Alaska, we almost beat the New York Rangers. Nobody skates the river like we do.

brady (Posted 2008-07-13 02:08:27)
okay. maybe there shouldnt be teams in the south. But what about alaska? We mite as well be part of canada seeing as how have the lower 48 thinks alaska is somewhere below hawaii.

Hayden Moher (Posted 2008-07-13 00:55:27)
As a canadian I'd love to see another team back here, but im just not sure where they would play. If and when Nashville, Florida, and/or Phoenix move, I suggest one of the teams move to Seattle. It's one of the largest TV markets in the US, and it has an empty building now that the Sonics have left. The fact that Bettman hasn't put a team there but has put one pretty much every where else surprises me. I also hear a lot about Kansas City, but I think moving a team there would be pointless, despite the fact they have a newer facility.

Victor Minicozzi (Posted 2008-07-12 22:00:45)
Canadian fans do not want the NHL to themselves. They would, however, prefer that hockey doesn't continue to suffer in the country music capital of the world when there are plenty of rinks that would be packed 82 games a season with fans who appreciate the game and likely know what an icing is. Ummm, do you mean like Winnepeg or Quebec? Oh yeah those teams didn't make it in the NHL. There are 9 teams in 2008 that had a less percentage of capacity than the Predators. Boston, Washington, St Louis, Chicago, and the Islanders among them. Maybe those teams need to close up shop and move to Hamilton.

Wild Bill (Posted 2008-07-12 20:20:11)
The Wings will concentrate any salary strategy on resigning Hossa long term rather than chase R. Miller. Why Miller? Ozzie will have another year remaining and they will be able to sign Conklin again for low dollars, as well as J. Howard's career determination. Hossa or R. Miller long term? A no brainer, try for Hossa.

Ummm (Posted 2008-07-12 19:43:47)
Hey Chris, check your ignorance. Canadian fans do not want the NHL to themselves. They would, however, prefer that hockey doesn't continue to suffer in the country music capital of the world when there are plenty of rinks that would be packed 82 games a season with fans who appreciate the game and likely know what an icing is. Likewise it would be nice to see a revival of sorts in the seats of franchises pre Bettman. Specifically St. Louis and Chicago.

Max (Posted 2008-07-12 19:21:41)
Um Blowtree? Lidstrom is great, I agree. Greatest ever set in stone? Maybe top 5. Best Euro. Jordan is correct, there will never be another Bobby Orr, Best ever.

t-murder (Posted 2008-07-12 19:19:06)
what bettman needs to do is not move the failing Americans teams such as the panthers or the predators to canada just disband those teams. However, the failing small market teams would be disband if the existing owners were willing to buy the franchises back and then take them apart. That is the best solution to raising the quality of play and lowering salaries when there are more players looking for fewer jobs they will want to perform harder and be willing to take slightly less pay in order to ensure they stay on a team.

MJH3310 (Posted 2008-07-12 18:44:53)
These Ryan Miller rumours are getting tiresome...the Sabres have since learned from their 2007 mistakes and are actively tlking contracts with him. He'll stay, especially now that he's got a solid backup for the first time in 1.5 seasons and Rivet as a blueliner (Thibault and Conklin were big disappointments here, esp Conklin). Sabres finish 6th in the East this coming year, well below the cap...and pick up a HUGE asset in the spring for their playoff run. The Nashville fan who has called Buffalo folks unfortunates can know that I feel very fortunate to be from there. The tacky "New South" will die out in another 25 yrs and the northern transplants will return home leaving you to your Appalachian backwardness.

Dale (Posted 2008-07-12 18:44:10)
Hey Chris, what are you talking about?

Chris (Posted 2008-07-12 18:42:37)
It looks like Nashville will be around for a bit. Sorry Canadians. If there are others here who want all the teams to be in Canada, be prepared to have the KHL steal all the NHL stars. Also, if anyone wants to have fun, go to Forbes.com and look up the NHL team values. When all debt is thrown into the equation, the Preds are worth more than Calgary and Edmonton. Seems odd to me that some Canadian teams would be worth less then the lowly "Southern" teams. I am just a fan of the NHL in general, even with all the insane nationalism of the sports creators. Thanks for the great sport Canada and we really like it in the South, but we would like it more if you would quit acting like whiny a**holes when you do not get your way.

Dale (Posted 2008-07-12 17:34:34)
You left Brendan Shanahan off your list. I'd slide him in there at 2nd or 3rd on the first list AND neck and neck with Sakic on the 2nd.

Jordan (Posted 2008-07-12 17:20:29)
ummm...blowtrees....Lidstrom is not the best d-man ever and will never be, that honor goes to the Legendary Bobby Orr, no doubt about it.

Joe (Posted 2008-07-12 16:47:47)
They wont move Cleary as he has a NTC in his contract for first 3 years

Spartan (Posted 2008-07-12 16:37:19)
Blowtrees he was a beast in Ann Arbor? Try, he was a beast in East Lansing!!! He wasn't a Wolverine, he was a Spartan!! And Miller will be in Detroit, count on it....Jimmy Howard is not the second coming of Dom....

Blowtrees (Posted 2008-07-12 16:09:21)
Miller was a beast in Ann Arbor, I've still got pictures of his mask. I'd love for him to suit up as a Wing too, but I question whether or not it's worth paying for him assuming at that point his career would be on the downswing. Keep in mind we've still got Jimmy Howard and that 1st rounder from this year for when Ozzie decides to hang up his pads. Hossa likely will go unless he's willing to take another significant pay cut. Z and Franzen stay. Fillpula will stay. He'll get arbitration this year and a deal signed pending his performance. It's likely be in the 2.5-3M range for multiple years. I see Hudler or Sammy being shipped out before Fil. Even Cleary, but that's unlikely. Keep in mind we've also got a plethora of defensemen. You're right Drapes and Maltby will be retiring around then, but the cap will have increased also, probably about 12M from here to the end of 2010. Then there's Nick, who certainly will still be able to play for another 10 years, but may just retire when his contract is up in 2010 (I think) what with 4 cups and his reputation as best defenseman EVAR pretty much set in stone.

Strongbad (Posted 2008-07-12 15:59:32)
Here in Strongbadia we too will soon have our own hockey league just like the NHL and the KHL. We hope that many of the top NHL and KHL stars will come to play in the new SHL. This will be easy since we have no agreement with the KHL or the NHL to stop player from coming and we don't have an olympic team to be banned by Wayne Gretzky. Also, since the currency of Strongbadia isn't tied to the US or Canadian dollar (or the Gyro), your paycheck is safe with us. Thanks, Strong Bad.

Antonio Graci (Posted 2008-07-12 15:40:48)
um, wait...................what???

Gord Puquegnutts (Posted 2008-07-12 15:21:48)
Jono and Justin, you're both spot on, you must be good Canadian lads, Grapes is proud of both of you. Once again for our ignorant "friends" in the US and Europe: it's OUR game, give it back to us, we want it, we need it, we've got nothing else, so PLEASE, let us have it. My shrink explained to me that it's Zenaphobia that I have, not Zebra-phobia. So, I'll explain that to you, since I know Americans and Euros aren't as smart as us Canadians: I'm not afraid of Zebra (duh!, I knew that...what DO I pay her for?) I'm afraid of warrior princesses...WAIT! No, I'm not! It's got something to do with her being Australian though...because Australia is another inferior country that shouldn't have hockey. That's right! NO HOCKEY FOR YOU, Australia! Besides, your aren't even a country, the Germans took you over in WWII...think we don't know our world history here in Canada? We read, what else do you do when the brew is all gone and CBC is off the air. You read and watch re-runs of Pig n Whistle! So, to sum up: good Canadian lads, Euros and Yanks bad, zebras are nothing to fear, and NO HOCKEY FOR AUSTRALIA! Whhhaaa...where's my BREW??!!! Uhhhhh...those damned zebras....

james brown (Posted 2008-07-12 15:19:05)
the red wings will win another stanley cup next year.They will not resign marian hossa. They will use the capspace created to sign ryan miller to a long term contract in order to replace a retiring chris osgood. what will also happen in order to gain more cap space is that they will trade flippula in combination with a retiring draper and maltby.

jono (Posted 2008-07-12 15:03:59)
your khl sucks and will never compete with the nhl , only players going your way are old players on the downside of their careers like jagr and little cry baby rassians that think they deserve more money

Alexander K. (Posted 2008-07-12 15:00:27)
Justin, that is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Why should we care about the Canadians, there's only 6 Canadian teams...yeah, that sounds pretty stupid too doesn't it? 4 of the original 6 Canadian teams are in American cities, all the winners since 93, have been American cities. I think the hockey market in American is pretty important. Besides, don't try to heap us all into some giant generality, there's tons of hockey fans in the U.S. You just have to find the right markets.

Justin (Posted 2008-07-12 14:53:29)
Eurodude, I respectfully disagree. As someone who lives in the US, the NHL should not give a rat's ass about what Americans think. Americans are never going to care about the sport, period, and no contract with ESPN or anything else is ever going to change that.

Eurodude from Minsk (Posted 2008-07-12 13:41:04)
Wonderous: Jason K presents his own version of "Random Thoughts." If you're not "feeling" the resurgence of the Senators that your office staff is, it's because silly people work for you. Ruutu shouldn't even be IN the NHL and Smith is merely a bruised puck stop with heart at this point in his career. Please don't talk about "leadership"...in terms of "character" those two are a study in contrasts. Smith will have to spend all his time explaining to Ruutu how to NOT be a disgrace to the game. Let's all stop talking about Finger now, ok? Nobody cares. It's not a big deal just because it happened in Toronto. It's inevitable. Player contracts haven't ruined the NHL's economy. The mayor of munchkin land did that all by his little small self. He fomented a pointless lockout on behalf of minor market clubs, lost the TV contract with the world's largest sports network, and rendered the game irrelevant to the American public. Now before you all get your red and white maple leaf panties in a bunch, it should be pointed out that that athletes who play sports that the American public does watch, get paid ALOT more than the Finger contract that you are all so upset about. CFL, NHL and curling stars do not. Hmmm, I wonder why that is? Oh yeah, the "economic health" of the NHL is completely tied to US fans giving a damn and Bettman has made sure they don't. It's all very quaint, this "our game" crap, but elite athletes wanted to be paid and treated like other elite athletes, not like roller derby paycheck mules so that somebody's misguided national identity can stay in tact. And that's the Truth, Ruth.

Dave (Posted 2008-07-12 13:34:00)
I agree, I think the Sens are going nowhere this year. They need a goaltender that can play an entire season plus playoffs and Gerber has proved he can't maintain his level of play that long, Murray should really be going after Khabibulin. I can't imagine Khabibulin or Huet likes the idea of being a backup, Chicago is making a mistake if they think thats seriously going to last.

Finn (Posted 2008-07-12 13:26:52)
If the NHL expanded into Canada, those team could have financial problems in the future if the U.S. Economy ever gets back on track and the Canadian Dollar hits rock bottom. The only safe expansion market in Canada is the Greater Toronto Area that could support another NHL team regardless of economy issues. Things are great right now for Canadian Markets but in ten years it could be the opposite. I'd love to see a Winnipeg franchise be successful, but they couldn't even sell-out a preseason game between their ex-Jets and the Toronto Maple Leafs in the preseason last year. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence when pre-season games are selling out everywhere else across the country. I'm Canadian, and I'd love to see more franchises in Canada someday, but some of you Canadian fans need to take your head out of the clouds.

Antonio Graci (Posted 2008-07-12 13:15:14)
what is hurting the NHL's economy is these ridiculous contracts certain Canadian GM's are handing out to players.. Toronto - Jeff Finger Vancouver - 2 yr/20mil offer to Sundin Vancouver - Diemetra Edmonton - 7yr/50mil offer to Thomas Vanek in 2007 way to lead this league into another certain long term lock-out Kevin Lowe............

Nick d (Posted 2008-07-12 13:08:36)
runamuk, get over what? Canada deserves more teams and everyone knows it. The teams in the south are just hurting the NHL's economy, AND CLEARLY BETTEMEN NEEDS TO GET OVER HIS OBSESSSIONS with teams in the south, and move at least one team to Canada, and his will see great revenue increase.

Antonio Graci (Posted 2008-07-12 13:07:10)
the majority of Buffalo Sabres fans with common sense do not share 'sabresfan's' views.......(I highly suspect he is from Southern Ontario) if a team moves anywhere near Southern Ontario the Sabres will be (once again) in the same situation Nashville was last summer.....after watching your former team owner handcuffed on CNN the only thing i am concerned about is my own franchise's fiscal viability in the league......these southern region prejudices about deserving a franchise are starting to get old quick.

runamuk6 (Posted 2008-07-12 12:52:03)
Good God will you Canadians and unfortunates that have to live in Buffalo please shut the he!! up about Nashville not belonging. The ownership fiasco with Del Baggio has now been eliminated by the current local investors stepping up with the 9.8 million invested by this San Jose Shark fraud and it is now entirely local ownership without any hidden agendas to move the team to Kansas City or to Canada. Get over it!!! The Preds future depends entirely on the fan support which is growing yearly. The trumoil of the past two years has only strengthened the resolve of the community that NO ONE is going to take our team. With some many recreational alternatives availbale down here and that is certaintly not the case in beautiful Buffalo and the Ice Kingdom, the Preds are building a strong rabid fan base and hockey is now being played in Jr Leagues and is now a high school sport. Something never heard of 10 years ago. Nashville is one of the fastest growing cities in the country and the base is expanding. Never mind that we have had minor league hockey in town since 1960 so we are not totally ignorant of the game. Go pick on the Isles or someone else and leave us alone. We are coming of age and our impact on the NHL will be felt league wise very very soon.

Jonathan Mayfield (Posted 2008-07-12 12:27:47)
Very, very original, sabresfan.

sabresfan01 (Posted 2008-07-12 12:00:43)
Everyone knows that Nashville doesn't deserve a team, neither does Phoenix or Miami (Florida), move those teams to Canada, Hamilton, Qubéc and Winnipeg, where the stadiums will be packed EVERY night. Don't leave them there to satisfy like 4 die hard Pred, Coyotes and Panter fans, every team has those.

Jim Reinecke (Posted 2008-07-12 11:56:39)
I'm in full support of you, Jonathan and Victor. Being from a Central Division city myself (St Louis), I've witnessed games from music city (on TV only. . .I hope to be able to visit Sommet Center for a Blues-Preds match in the near future) and the noise level from the Predator fans seems to reach a considerable volume. I don't have any statistics in front of me to prove this, but it seems like the Predator faithful in Nashville have been more supportive of their team in recent years than the Blackhawk rooters in Chicago (to name another Central Division market). I also have to express my admiration at the stability of the GM and coaching duties that has been the hallmark of the franchise since its inception. David Poile and Barry Trotz have been on the job since the first puck was dropped, even if the higher echelons of the front office have been so tumultuous. Props to the fans of the Predators; the NHL needs more rooters like you!

Jonathan M (Posted 2008-07-12 11:43:52)
I totally agree with Victor. We get so much crap blasted our way. I'm sorry, but even though Boots turned out to be a fraud, we still have about 7 other completely loaded investors backing this team. So your argument will be, "Why doesn't just one of them take the team?" Because putting multiple people into the fray that are from completely diverse business backgrounds and settings is EXACTLY what is good for a southern market hockey team (because hockey just doesn't belong here, right?). This is disgusting. Nashville gave Detroit their hardest test in the playoffs, yet we get no credit. We sold the farm last season and made the playoffs, yet we get no credit. Our team was about to go extinct and move to Hamilton (talk about bad business), and our "non-traditional, non-hockey loving, non-hockey deserving" little town rallies behind the city and pulls 10,000 people in the dead heat of summer for a rally that sells several thousand season tickets in one day, yet we get no credit (because remember, we don't like hockey in the south). Our team is facing an escape clause along with losing our revenue sharing if we do not average a certain number of fans per game (13,500 I think), but our city rallies and hits the number in the final 1/3 of home games with an arena that only seats 17,117 fans, yet we get no credit. We make no offseason moves, but we lock up some of the brightest talent in the NHL's future, yet we get no credit. This is basically bogus. Why not come to a game in Nashville and then see if we are a hockey town or not. I'm pretty sure after Games 3 and 4 of our quarterfinal series with Detroit last April I went home with a ringing in my ears. I could not even hear my friend next to me. But, right, we don't like, know, appreciate, or respect hockey and its hallowed Canadian beginnings.

Victor Minicozzi (Posted 2008-07-12 11:16:11)
I've been in Nashville for 10 years. I was a lifelong Rangers fan until then. The ownership mess was caused by the NHL bringing Boots into the fold without doing the proper background checks. I guess they didn't learn their lesson with the Islander fiasco several years back. However, the current group has stepped up and met any financial obligations to the city so their isn't a "fiasco" of ownership. In fact, this group is much more positive and I expect the corporate participation to be greatly increased in the coming season. The Predators fan base is just like about 20 other teams in this league. In fact it may actually be better than the majority because they have pulled the financial freight since the former owner, Leipold failed miserably in getting the corporate support needed to succeed under his ownership. It is tiring to hear what a bad hockey market this is. Does anyone talk about the lousy attendance at the Islander games or any number of other hockey franchises. The Predators attendance actually increased substantially in the second half of the season which is a tribute to their support after the selling off of high quality players by the former owner and the unsettled ownership mess that took up the first half of the season. I would have liked them to sign a couple of free agents but at what price? The salaries dished out this year were ridiculous. Your magazine has documented how crazy it was. The Preds choosed to re-sign their core base of players and substantially increased their payroll from last year. I guess we will all have to wait and see but I wouldn't bet against Nashville.

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