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THN.com Playoff Blog: History says Pens-Wings final in the offing

Odds are Dallas Drake and Rob Scuderi will meet in the Stanley Cup final. (Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images)

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Odds are Dallas Drake and Rob Scuderi will meet in the Stanley Cup final. (Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images)

The Pittsburgh Penguins and Detroit Red Wings have positioned themselves best for the heavy lifting that will come, largely because they’ve managed to avoid a lot of heavy lifting through the first half of the playoffs.

And because of that, if history is any indicator, the Penguins and Red Wings will meet in the Stanley Cup final with the Penguins emerging as slight favorites at this point.

The fact Pittsburgh played three fewer games than the Philadelphia Flyers through the first two rounds and the Red Wings two fewer than the Dallas Stars might not seem like much, but history tells a different story.

There have been 20 playoffs since the league went to the four-round, best-of-seven format in 1987 and it has been proven time and again teams that get through the first two rounds quickly stand the best chance of winning the Stanley Cup.

Over the past 20 playoffs, the average number of games the Stanley Cup champion played over the first two rounds was 10.5. This year, the Penguins were one loss away from running the table in the first two rounds and the Red Wings advanced in 10 games. The Philadelphia Flyers and Dallas Stars, on the other hand, each needed 12 games to make it halfway through the playoffs.

In 15 of past 20 playoffs, the eventual Stanley Cup winner played the fewest numbers of games among conference finalists. The big anomaly came in 1998, when the Cup-champion Red Wings needed 12 games to get through the first two rounds, while the Stars and Washington Capitals each played 11 and the Buffalo Sabres played nine.

Recently, one of the major keys to winning the Cup seems to be getting out of the first two rounds in 10 or fewer games, although 11 isn’t too bad, provided the other teams involved in the conference finals have played at least that many themselves.

Only four times in the past 20 years has the Stanley Cup winner played more than 11 games through the first two rounds and it hasn’t happened since the Red Wings played 12 in 1998.

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No Cup winner has swept the first two series since 1987, but winning in nine games certainly helps. Both the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2004 and the New York Rangers in 1994 did that and their easy paths served them well when they needed to go the distance in both the Eastern Conference and Stanley Cup finals.

As an aside, THN picked the Stars to defeat Detroit in this round over my vehement objections. And the reason we chose Dallas is the same reason why I’m choosing Detroit – Stars goalie Marty Turco.

Yes, Turco has been the star of the playoffs so far, but for some reason he has a serious mental block when playing at Joe Louis Arena. He comes into these playoffs with a 0-7-2 record as an NHLer at the Joe, which is odd considering the fact he was spectacular in the building as a college goalie with the University of Michigan.

THN.com's Playoff Blogs, featuring analysis and opinion on the action from the night before, with insight on what happened and what it all means going forward, will appear daily throughout the NHL playoffs. Read more entries HERE.

Ken Campbell is a senior writer for The Hockey News and a regular contributor to THN.com. His blog appears Tuesdays and Fridays and his column, Campbell's Cuts, appears Mondays.

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Mike Posted
(2009-04-30 06:17:01)



Mark Twain Said “There are three types of Lies: Lies, Dam lies, and Statistics.” The reason the stats shape up that way is because the best team often have the easier road, but we are talking 2 or 3 games here and thanks to the TV Schedule all teams have long breaks. So this is one of those years that probably won't fit in your nice little statistic. It may work out that way because on paper Detroit and Pitt are the better teams, however with Hockey emotion is key and both Dallas and Philly play with more emotion. One of them will make the finals.
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Richard harriman Posted
(2009-04-30 06:17:01)



Transplanted Bruins fan,living in St Petersburg,Florida. Never thogh I Would live to see the day the stanley cup would be in florida. Ya,its old news but build up to, lets see ,oh, the Mighty Ducks champs!? Anything can happen in Stanley Cup Playoffs. We all know this than why are we surprised, what we have at this point.New York rangers out overrated,bit washed up, Rode hard put away wet. Bottom line Detriot Red Wings will beat the Flyers in 6.
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Troy Posted
(2009-04-30 06:17:01)



The two Davids battle Goliath yet again. Philly thus far has ousted two division champs. One being the first place team in the east (Habs), the hottest team down the stretch & eventual Southeast division winner Caps. Now they face-off against the Atlantic division winning Pens. Same can be said for the Stars, sort of. All they did was knock out the defending Cup champ Ducks, then the hottest team down the stretch in the West & eventual Pacific winning Sharks. Now they get the President winning Red Wings. Do these stories remind you all of anything ?? Flyers in 2008= Flames run in 2004 where they knocked off all three division winners on their way to the final. Stars in 2008=Oilers run in 2006 where they knocked out the same three teams the Stars have faced on their way to the final as serious underdogs who limped into the playoffs. Or how about RJ Umberger in 2008 vs Fernando Pisani in 2006. Both limited in regular season scoring & lights out in the playoffs. Kipper in 2004 vs Roli in 2006 vs Biron in 2008. All three were career back-ups who in their first crack as a playoff starter stole games on the way to the finals. Biron hasn't yet, yet being the key word. Maybe this is the year of Cinderella, maybe not. It'll be fun to watch nonetheless.
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Tim Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:59)



Wow, calm down guys. This is a prediction/opinion, so what if he didn't choose your favorite team, get over it. Nobody knows for certain whats going to happen so the fact that he thinks differently from you doesn't make him an idiot. It just makes you a bigot.
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Sergio Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:59)



Bob, let me guess... Flyers fan? You people and your arguments couldn't get more stale if you tried
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History Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:54)



History here, Campbell, that must've been your bad ear, because what I actually said was that the Flyers will play the Red Wings for an opportunity at redemption from "the sweep". More than that, I'm not saying, you've got to ask Future about that. Remember, BTW, that I'm History, not Fashionable Present, so, I certainly didn't pick the flavor of the month down there in P-burgh.
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Bob Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:53)



God Bless you Ken campbell...YES, it will be Det/Pitt in the finals and all of civilization will get to see KID WONDERFUL AND ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE WORLD, and our sport will be saved, gas will plummet to 29 cents a gallon, and we will all REJOICE..Thank you, Thank you, Ken campbell and thank you KID WONDEFUL, otherwise known as Greg Louganis, Jr....
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Ian Altenbaugh Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:51)



The Penguins and Red Wings will be a very entertaining match. The Pens forwards and Detroits D would make for entertaining battles along the boards.
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Brian Posted
(2009-04-30 06:16:50)



oh yes, please keep discounting the Stars. Please, lease do, as they seem to do best when everyone counts them out before the puck even drops. Predictions are like chocolate starfishes...everyone has one and they usually stink..
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