Ask Adam: Shut yer trap

Sidney Crosby got a whiner rep from arguing with officials too much. (Photo by Jeff Vinnick/NHLI via Getty Images)

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Sidney Crosby got a whiner rep from arguing with officials too much. (Photo by Jeff Vinnick/NHLI via Getty Images)

Hmmmmnnn…the first round of the NHL’s post-season has just gotten underway, but most of your questions are of the non-playoff variety. To each their own, I suppose.

Adam,

Why do players always argue calls? The refs aren't going to say, “Oh whoops, I made a mistake, no penalty.” The only thing that might happen is they will also get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

B.M.J., Calgary


B.M.J.,

You’re preaching to the converted.

I understand it’s not as if NHLers are the only pro athletes who’ll tell officials with a straight face they’re as pure as Hannah Montana, then proceed to get all Courtney Love-ish when the zebras’ backs are turned.

But, like you, I’m well past the point of weariness every time I see a player scowling and telegraphing a few choice curse words so everyone in the arena and at home knows how utterly wronged he was.

And yes, I also understand the players believe that, by complaining, they might affect which team gets the next penalty after theirs. Still, as you saw in Thursday’s Flames-Sharks game – featuring six consecutive penalties to Calgary in the second period – bitching and moaning shouldn’t be and isn’t really a factor whatsoever.

Adam,

As Roberto Luongo so elegantly put it, "the season ended on Thursday for me," so I'm getting a head start on fantasizing about draft day dealings.

What do you think of my whimsical fantasy? Kevin Bieksa, Luc Bourdon, the Canucks’ 10th-overall pick and a third round pick for the Lightning’s first-overall pick, Paul Ranger and Ryan Craig? It shores up Tampa’s defense now and in the future, finally; and gives them a good pick in a good draft. As for Vancouver, they get to finally draft a quality prospect at center for the first time since Trevor Linden 20 years ago, a capable fill in for the loss of defensive depth and some depth at forward in local boy Ryan Craig.

Craig, Vancouver


Craig,

Intriguing proposal. However, Bolts GM Jay Feaster has spoken publicly about his team’s need to replace some of the offense that departed with Brad Richards, so I would guess the Canucks would have to add some scoring power to the package going Tampa’s way. Throw Daniel or Henrik Sedin into that mix, and Feaster might very well be interested.

And that brings me to something that’s bounced around my head for a while now: I realize it borders on sacrilege in Vancouver to even suggest splitting up the Sedin Twins, but really, considering the state the Canucks are in, should any player or specific combination of players be off the trade table? I say no.

Adam,

Back to ask about the draft again now that the lottery is over. I'm excited about the playoffs, but as a Kings fan, I've been looking to next season since December.

With the Kings winning the second-overall pick and needing to rebuild their defensive core, it stands to reason Dean Lombardi will take Drew Doughty. My question for you is: When do you think Doughty will have an impact on whatever team drafts him?

I know defensemen generally take more time to adapt to the NHL level of play, but do you think there's a chance he could crack the Kings’ lineup next season and have an impact? Thanks!

Rory Weden, La Crescenta, Calif.


Rory,

First of all, I wouldn’t be so sure Lombardi and the Kings (sounds like an Italian jazz band, if there is such a thing) are taking Doughty, as Peterborough Petes blueliner Zach Bogosian is making a late charge up the draft rankings. Either way, though, you’re right in thinking it’s likely L.A. will take a defenseman in the No. 2 spot.

You’re also right in thinking it takes longer for guys playing that position to develop, but you need look no further than Erik Johnson in St. Louis to see that Bogosian or Doughty could make an NHL roster as quickly as the second year after they’re drafted. Every case is different, of course, but there’s no arguing this is a younger man’s game now.

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Joe (Posted 2008-04-12 21:39:46)
I was thinking about A trade with Van earlier this week. I think they should throw anything at Tampa to get The 1st overall pick. Anybody but Luongo and Bourdon. that would be a good starting point for Van.

whatsthatsmell (Posted 2008-04-12 08:36:46)
It's not the penalty's they call that rankle me so much as the one's they don't call - like the obvious one on Zetterberg the other day that was a real screw up.

Madman (Posted 2008-04-11 19:04:12)
Man, whenever I took a penalty, I went straight to the referee and sarcastically asked, "Is it me??" And the ref would be like, "Duh. You can't get away with that!" I don't know about you, but a penalty's a penalty. Obviously wrong or in sheer "Wtf did I do?", don't argue, there's no point. Try to see the positive. Because of this, every time I get a penalty, I laugh, because I think it's funny. For example, I laugh about a slashing call when it's clearly a cross-check that I gave to a fellow player. Obviously, in the NHL, it's not funny. But hey, I'm not a pro hockey player. I'm just out to have some fun.

eric the red (Posted 2008-04-11 16:54:47)
Yes, brian and for every time you went to the box thinking oh damn I did it again, I'm sure there was a time you complained because you really didn't do anything.... I also know because I've been on both sides of this. Sometimes you deserve it, sometimes you don't, and in neither case is it going to change the refs mind one bit. However, you still vent just like everyone from the beer league to the nhl; its human nature.

Brian (Posted 2008-04-11 15:03:10)
Hi Adam.For once I agree with you, it's stupid to argue a call once it's made. I want to point out something that is rarely mentioned though, by ANY writer or announcer: Often, after a call, the cammera catches the perp. shaking his head side to side, either in, or on the way to the penalty box. Most announcers take this to mean that the player disagrees with the call. THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE! Most often, especially when the penalty is obvious, this gesture does not portray disagreement, rather, it shows a players saying to himself something like "SH*& that was stupid, why did I do that, man, I'm an idiot, Crap, I hope they don't score!" How do I know that? Well, simple really: it's because I've done it a hundred times!

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