THN.com Blog: Four contenders neck-and-neck for NHL's MVP
New Jersey's Martin Brodeur is a no-brainer for Vezina consideration, but should also get some votes for the Hart. (Photo by Bruce Kluckhohn/NHLI via Getty Images)
Mike Brophy
2008-03-17 11:20:09
It’s almost time to vote for the Hart Trophy and I’ve got to be honest, I am not even close to picking my winner.
I will say, though, I have narrowed it down to four candidates – goalies Martin Brodeur of the New Jersey Devils and Roberto Luongo of the Vancouver Canucks, left winger Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals and right winger Jarome Iginla of the Calgary Flames.
I firmly believe, had Sidney Crosby not missed so much action with that high ankle sprain, he would have repeated as the Hart winner. Oh well.
There is a big part of me that wants to make Ovechkin No. 1 (out of five) on my ballot, but I am struggling with the fact his team may not make the playoffs. Part of me thinks he should win it because without him the Capitals wouldn’t even be in contention for a playoff spot.
And if the award were for the best player this season, he’d win it hands-down. Voters are supposed to reward “The player adjudged to be most valuable to his team.” Has anybody been more valuable to his team than Ovechkin?
Then again, I have admired the way Iginla has played for the Flames. Through 72 games he ranked third in NHL scoring with 45 goals and 87 points. With the exception of a 10-game goalless drought from Jan. 8 through Feb. 4, he has been marvelous. He leads by example, often dropping his gloves to make his point.
Luongo has been spectacular once again for the Canucks. Is it his fault they don’t offer him
Brodeur just may be the sentimental favorite. Gone are the days when he relaxed between the pipes while Scott Stevens, Scott Niedermayer and Brian Rafalski kept attackers at bay. Now, he makes stops with the likes of Colin White (who has improved drastically, but was a No. 5 defender in the glory days), Johnny Oduya and Mike Mottau patrolling the blueline.
With a few weeks to go, the Hart Trophy is still wide open from my perspective. So wide open, in fact, Daniel Alfredsson might sneak into the pack with a strong finish.
Mike Brophy, the co-author of the book Walking with Legends, is a senior writer for The Hockey News and a regular contributor on THN.com. His blog appears Mondays and his column, Double OT, appears Wednesday.
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Stu (Posted 2008-03-22 10:23:50)
Malkin or Ovechkin are the only real choices but Malkin only plays his best when Crosby is out. Caps have moved from last place to a point out of the playoffs with 6 games to go. Without Ovechkin they would still be in last.
Alexander Cohen (Posted 2008-03-20 19:34:39)
A player can only be valuable to a their team when the team is good. The Habs are battling for first in the East and Alex Kovalev is leading the effort. Their biggest compeditor are the Devils with Martin Brodeur at the helm. But where are the Capital lead by Alexander Ovechkin? Battling for the top spot in the SouthLEAST division, because they know they won't be in the playoffs without winning beating such dynasties like the Atlanta Thrashers so they can get in the exclusive tournament by virtue of a crappie rule that should be iliminated. Good team=Valuable Player (Alex Kovalev, Martin Brodeur) Bad Team=Invaluable Player (Alexander Ovechkin!) GO HABS GO!! KOVALEV FOR HART!! (GRETZ EVEN SAYS SO!)
Granger (Posted 2008-03-19 21:27:51)
Baffled why Luongo and Brodeur would be MVP candidates with less wins, shutouts and average than Nabokov.
Also, the player that no pundit has mentioned but should have, is Chara. Has been a beast all season for the Bruins with points and hits. Boston loses 18-3 to Toronto and Washington, with nine even strength goals allowed and Chara was plus-1 overall.
Joseph (Posted 2008-03-19 16:10:54)
I think we seem to associate the Hart with the player with the most points or goals...I believe it should go to the player who's play has inspired the team to reach its goal...Without that player the team would not be where it is currently...Kovalev is my choice for a MVP this year...his inspired play has inspired a whole Montreal team....
todd walker (Posted 2008-03-19 11:43:44)
malkin should be in the top 3, he has carried the pen's since crosby went down. mvp means most valuable player, where would the pen's be without malkin? probably right next to the flyers.
Michael Kramer (Posted 2008-03-19 10:56:29)
Crosby's not even the best player on his own team, let alone the whole league. Malkin's just too humble a player and person to upset the Canada-centric NHL's clearly ordained status quo that Crosby is the (NEXT?) "next one". This year we have 3 of the top 5 overall assit leaders being Russian (as well as 4/5 being Europeans) and yet the NHL and THN says nothing. Further, 3 of the top 5 in overall scoring are also Russian (with 6/10 Euros) and again, nothing from the NHL or THN. And even with 3 of the top 4 in goal scoring leaders being Russian (and 10/17 Euros) the clearly Canada-centric NHL and THN says or notes nothing about such a clearly intriguing and revealing trend in the game...!?! Why is everything "Crosby", "Crosby", "Crosby" when 1) he isn't even in the line-up (another "next-Lindros" in the making?) and 2) those who are, are simply ignored because of, what, their non-Canadian heritage? The NHL and THN had no problem whatsoever touting Vincent Lecavalier and Jarome Iginla when they were on top -- GEEZ, what's your problem with giving the same due credit for Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, etc...??? And you wonder why the game doesn't get any "American" (or more specifically, "non-Canadian"?) ad/sponsor/media exposure and support...!?!
Michael Kramer (Posted 2008-03-19 10:49:58)
Crosby's not even the best player on his own team, let alone the whole league. Malkin's just too humble a player and person to upset the Canada -centric NHL's clearly ordained status quo that Crosby is the (NEXT?) "next one". This year we have 3 of the top 5 points overall leaders being Russian (as well as 6/10 being Europeans) and yet the NHL and THN says nothing. Further, 3 of the top 5 in scoring are also Russian (6/10 Euros) and again, nothing from the NHL or THN. And even with 3 of the top 4 in goal scoring leaders being Russian (and 10/17 Euros) the clearly Canada-centric NHL and THN says or notes nothing about such a clearly intriguing and revealing trend in the game...!?! Why is everything "Crosby", "Crosby", "Crosby" when 1) he isn't even in the line-up (another "next-Lindros" in the making?) and 2) those who are, are simply ignored because of, what, their non-Canadian heritage? The NHL and THN had no problem whatsoever touting Vincent Lecavalier and Jarome Iginla when they were on top -- GEEZ, what's your problem with giving the same due credit for Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, etc...???
Ryan (Posted 2008-03-19 10:31:18)
Nabokov has had a struggling offensive team in front of him all year and is the reason they were in position to take the division lead. There's your MVP.
Mike S (Posted 2008-03-19 08:12:46)
My choice is Lidstrom. He has 5 Norris trophies and yet still is the most underrated player in the league. Detroit is not that particularly talented and yet they are still number one in the league. The presence of Lidstrom on defense is the major reason why.
Chris Sides (Posted 2008-03-19 07:27:14)
Voters are supposed to reward "The player adjudged to be most valuable to his team." Has anybody been more valuable to his team than Ovechkin?
I hate to say it but Yes and he isn't in your top five selections!...Alex Kovalev has demonstrated that he has been more valuable than Ovechkin has to his team. No Kovalev has not scored the points that Ovechkin has, but that is what the Art Ross Trophy is for...Kovalev has led, by example, the young group of talented players the Canadiens brought up from Hamilton and it is clear that he is the difference.
Every season prediction said the Canadiens could not make the play-offs...well, Kovalev disagreed and the prove, as they say, is in the pudding...the Canadiens sit tied with New Jersey for the top spot in the East...no major trade, no real major off season free agent signing...they did not fire their coach, or their general manager...they just continued with the program they had in place and received the leadership that Alex Kovalev could bring to the team...
Harvey Webb (Posted 2008-03-18 18:40:51)
Too bad there is so much voting from the East where they have all gone to bed before the good & tight games in the West have even started. Give some of those voters some Geratol so they can see all of some Western games and they will see that Luongo is the best and only reason Vancouver isn't on the golf course already!!
Tim (Posted 2008-03-18 17:32:58)
Mike, we know you wish you were Sidney Crosbys best friend or agent and you think hes the greatest thing since slice bread but his injury showed Malkin is as good if not better than him in many facets.Get over yourself, Crosby is an elite playmaker... yes but last year the media like you were ordered by the NHL to vote for him.He wasnt the real MVP last year, Luongo or Brodeur were easily better than him.Remove your nose from crosby derrierre, youre missing alot of other great players, including some on his own team
Michael Butler (Posted 2008-03-18 16:46:02)
One name comes to mind....OVECHKIN. The only real candidate leads in points (99) and goals (57). You can't throw in the playoff team junk because without Ovie, the Caps have the look of an AHL team. Who does he have to work with? Backstrom? He is just a rookie and is only considered good because he gets assists by breaking out of their zone by slinging it to Ovie. Malkin's got Staal, Sykora, Gonchar, and Letang despite a newly aquired Hossa and playing with Sid the Kid for the first 45 games this season. Hart winner? Ovechkin. No questions asked
Alexander Kapaan (Posted 2008-03-18 16:32:48)
Yeah, how about Nabokov? Replace either Brodeur or Luongo with him. Nobody has started more games then him. He's only had 2 breaks so far, with "rumors" about him taking his third break off all year. And he's still putting up impressive numbers. If anyone should get the Hart (or atleast the Vezina) it's Evgeni Nabokov.
KB (Posted 2008-03-18 14:03:24)
OV plays without anyone. Backstrom is only good when he's on OV's line, and they can't even get a consistent RW. Put OV on a talented team, and he's got 30 more points than he does right now. He make the AHL team that is the Capitals into an NHL team.
Says it all:
http://www.examiner.com/blogs/beeler/2008/3/6/Alexander-the-Great
thedeke (Posted 2008-03-18 13:48:30)
As a rabid Canucks fan, I think that this is a two-horse race. Brodeur and Ovechkin should be the only real candidates. Malkin has had an amazing half-season, but that isn't good enough. The talent and depth he has on that team, and particularly the goaltending they have gotten. even when some of them are injured, are the difference between the Penguins' point total and the Caps' point total.
And being from Vancouver, I can tell you that goaltending is THE most important position. Which is why Brodeur should win the Hart. The goaltender on what might be the Eastern Conference-winning team is stuck behind a no-name defence and a mediocre offence (22nd in goals-for per game), and still leads his team to victory, 40+ times a season.
Luongo, and any other goalie for that matter, just haven't been as good as Brodeur this season. Iginla has been very good, but he has more help than Brodeur has. Same with Lidstrom and Nabokov. It's about time Brodeur finally won it.
Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-03-18 11:54:49)
I'm not saying Lidstrom should win it, just that he should at least get mentioned in the conversation. He is the guy that makes the Wings go, and even though other guys were hurt at the same time, you won't find anyone in the Wings organization who will tell you that anyone on that team is more important than him. Personnally, if I had a vote, I'd probably go crazy trying to decide between Maklin, Lidstrom, Iginla, Brodeur and Ovechkin, but I'd probably give the nod to Malkin for what he's done without Crosby. Any one of those five would be good choices.
Rob Dappenbrook (Posted 2008-03-18 09:44:17)
One choice...Malkin...He has single handedly propelled the pens to the tops of not only the Atlantic Division without Sid but into contention for the top seed in the Eastern Conference, spurring talks of Pittsburgh being a favorite to come out of the east deep into the playoffs. AO is years away from leading like Malkin has done in Crosby's absence. AO is an absolutely phenomenal talent, but Malkin has just been on another level, bringing up an injury prone Pens squad exactly when it matters most and that makes him the MVP hands down. If you were to go back in time and stick AO into Malkin's situation in Pittsburgh this season I don't see him going to that Lemieux like playmaker level dragging the Pens kicking and screaming into the playoffs. AO is not doing it now in Washington so you can't say he'd do it if he were in Malkin's place with an injury depleted Pens. Prediction, Malkin edges AO out for both the Hart and Ross by seasons end.
Andrew Gilchrist IV (Posted 2008-03-18 09:16:52)
I totally understand the AO talk for MVP, he is an amazing player.
Personally if it can't be him, it has to be Brodeur. The Devils have gone through so many changes throughout his career, from players, to coaches, etc. and yet again where would the Devils be without him. The days of the big name defenseman in front of him are gone (plus look at J-S on the Ducks, he has the best D corp and his numbers aren't as good as Broduer's), he now faces upwards of 35-40 shots a game, etc. and Brodeur still has kept the Devils in the running. The Devils improved marginally, at best, this past off-season, not like the rest of the Atlantic division, and look who is on top again, the Devils! If you want to vote for the most valuable player then it should be Brodeur! There is no sentimental choice about it... his numbers and his performance deserve it!
bobby goodman (Posted 2008-03-18 09:14:46)
I am very sure and have it on good authority that Chris Pronger has Colley Campbell's vote!!!!
Kyle Miller (Posted 2008-03-18 08:29:09)
How do you not have Big Joe or Nabby as Hart candidates? Even when they were "struggling" they were a top team in the real conference of the NHL because those two carried the team, yet you are putting the currently 6th and 8th seed representatives only in the Hart conversations? Hockey market bias if I've ever seen it.
Josh (Posted 2008-03-17 22:57:29)
WHY NOT MALKIN?! He has got my vote for the Hart! OV gets it if the Caps make the playoffs. Malkin should be there over Luongo and Iginla and maybe even Brodeur heck Conklin should be in there too! For the Pens being more talented yeah sure but Ov has a lot of talent surrounding him too
Backstrom is the best rookie playmaker in the NHL
Federov
Huet
Semin
Laich
Malkin should have it b/c when Crosby went down he was THE BEST player in the world at the time and Malkin is more complete of a player not like that makes much of a difference and he and OV are the best in the NHL right now but I think Malkin is a tad hotter
John Neumann (Posted 2008-03-17 22:54:16)
Brodeur for the MVP, hands down. The team is nowhere near as talented as it used to be and he plays almost every game (again ... but now because he HAS to), is 2nd in wins (8 more than Luongo), 4th in GAA, and 2nd in GAA. And, my goodness, have you seen who is playing defense in front of him these days? The D includes a guy Columbus didn't want (Brookbank), a guy the Rangers didn't want (Rachunek), a guy the Devils didn't want until Rafalski signed with Detroit (Oduya), a guy no one wanted (undrafted free ag Andy Greene), a guy who hasn't been in the league since 2003 (Mottau), and the reincarnation of Bruce Driver (Paul Martin). The Devils aren't sniffing the playoffs without him, and that's the definition of *valuable* ...
whatsthatsmell (Posted 2008-03-17 22:28:54)
Ovechkin. Period. Brodeur second, but still NJ play the same system, just different players from the golden days. Ovechkin this year - end of story. Next best is obviously Malkin. 1,2, just like they were drafted. The only difference is Malkin is on a more offensively minded, more talented team. Yet he is still short of Ovechkin.
james boston (Posted 2008-03-17 21:25:00)
Malkin,you dont even know 3 english words.Now you somehow learn how to spell english?Hahahahahahahaa.
malkin (Posted 2008-03-17 20:15:05)
i should be there
Shaun Gallo (Posted 2008-03-17 19:48:43)
How can you not include Evgeni Malikn in the conversation for MVP? He is at least deserving to be mentioned after everything he has done without Sid in the lineup for a good quarter of the season. And its not like he was non existant w/ Sid. He may not win the Hart but I think his play this season should at least get hos name in the running.
Steven Noble (Posted 2008-03-17 18:59:56)
Re: Lidstrom: I agree losing players like Cleary and Rafalski are underrated to the team but having watched Detroit regularly I don't think any player on the team makes as much a difference as he does.
That said, of the four mentioned in the blog I vote Ovechkin. Luongo has been inconsistent and I wouldn't even put him in the top-four this year. Brodeur gets my vote between those two. I also think Melkin should be on the list. The way he stepped up with Crosby out saved the team from missing the playoffs, nearly single-handedly.
DaveSwan (Posted 2008-03-17 18:42:28)
This has been one of the most exciting seasons I can remember seeing, and one of the main reasons why is, in the terms of Sidney Crosby on the old NHL Commercial...."OVECHKIN"!! He's brought a whole new level of play and excitement to the game. When he reaches the 60 goal level soon, it will help propel other players to reach that same level in the seasons to come, simply because they know if he did it, so can they. There is no way the Capitals would be anywhere near the playoffs without him. Teams like Detroit with Lidstrom would still be knocking on the door without him. The 4 mentioned in this article are all very valuable, but Ovechkin deffinitely has the upper edge.
J.W. (Posted 2008-03-17 17:43:37)
How about Wade Belak!!!!!!!.............just kidding, Broduer.
truerbluerfan (Posted 2008-03-17 17:23:57)
Mike, don't you think Mats Sundin deserves to be in the Top 5? Without him where are the Leafs? I think the media that surrounds the TML would definitely give Mats a lot of votes, maybe mostly 2nd and 3rd place votes but also maybe enough to win him a deserved MVP. Mats has never won a major award but he is due.
james boston (Posted 2008-03-17 17:12:55)
Lidstrom?Detroit was already missing Holmstrom,Cleary,Hasek,Rafalski,Chelios,Kronwall and Lidstrom.Thats a lot of players to be injured at the same time.All you Lidstrom lovers are only looking at the injury to Lidstrom and blaming the whole demise of the team on him.The whole D crew were injured!!!Not to mention a vital part of their top line(Homer).A vital part of their secondary scoring(Cleary).But...if you want to be biased and give ALL the credit to Lidstrom,i cant stop you.
steven noble (Posted 2008-03-17 16:49:08)
Hello? Anyone home out there? What about Niklas Lidstrom. The Wings were invincible and seemingly destined for a long playoff run. Then Lidstrom went down and the offence completely sputtered. Datsyuk and Zetterberg's production slowed down considerably and the rest of the forwards core simply stopped scoring altogether.
Not to mention one of the top powerplays in the league suddenly couldnt' manage to get set up to save their lives.
Lidstrom is leading the league in plus-minus yet again, in the top five in the league in assists and leads all d-men in points (62). He has been the most dominant defenceman in the last 10 years, even though his dominance is subtle, and practically owns the Norris.
Is it not yet time to consider him for Hart? He is every bit as valuable to Detroit if not more than Pronger was when he won the Hart.
Lidstrom gets my vote.
Shona (Posted 2008-03-17 16:17:37)
Don't forget to look at Jarome's plus minus. He is one of the best. Without Jarome I do not think the Flames could make the playoffs. It is not just about pts, it is about grit and determination and Iggy has all of that. Besides Ovechkin has yrs to win this/young guys coming up will own the mvp awards for a long time.
james boston (Posted 2008-03-17 16:11:13)
Kovalev for the Hart?I have officially entered the twilight zone.Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!Kovalev?Hahahahahahahaha.Sorry man.He has a better chance at winning the Vezina than he has at winning the Hart.GoCanada!Are you still trying to push your Lidstrom campaign?Detroits whole defencemen crew were injured at the time and they all came back at the same time.You're funny Pat.He does deserve to be considered,but not for the reasons you've mentioned.
Alexander Cohen (Posted 2008-03-17 14:48:19)
Where would the Habs be without the inspired play of Alex Kovalev? Wayne Gretzky has even commented on the season Kovalev is having for the Canadiens. The Great One even went as far as to mention the words "Kovalev" and "MVP" in the same breath. Take some advice from the greatest player in NHL history! Last time I checked the Habs were ahead of the Canucks, Flames and Capitals (who probably won't make the playoffs unless they win the SouthLEAST Division) and ONE point behind the Devils. A player is only valuable to a team when the team is good, which is exactly what "AK27" is to this high flying Habs team. ALEX KOVALEV FOR HART!!! GO HABS GO!!
Penny (Posted 2008-03-17 14:19:48)
Geez, Evgeni Nabokov has played more games and has more wins that Brodeur and he doesn't even get a mention? Hello media folks! There are teams in California!
Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-03-17 14:16:40)
Others have mentioned his name, but Lidstrom deserves, if not the Hart, then serious consideration for it. He's leading all defensemen in points, has the best +/- in the league, and when he's in, the Wings are the most dominant team in hockey; When he's out, they lose seven out of eight. How's that for valuable? Like others have said, Crosby is an incredibly talented player, and someday he might be the best player in the world, but right now, I'm not even convinced he's the best player on his team. If Lidstrom doesn't win the Hart, Ovechkin, Malkin or Luongo would be great choices, but St. Nick should definitely be given more consideration than he apparently is getting from the media.
Craig (Posted 2008-03-17 13:49:33)
They won't make the playoffs, but how bad would pheonix be without Bryzgalov? if it is "the player most valuable to his team", then just look at the way Pheonix started without Bryzgalov, and the way they have competesd since? It's the difference between being Toronto and Detroit.
Andrew (Posted 2008-03-17 13:40:51)
Nicklas Lidstrom. Ovechkin is the only competition, but given the value placed on a player's team standing by "the media's", there is no question. Nicklas Lidstrom. Step up and give the man his due! Double award winner - Norris and Hart!
Trever (Posted 2008-03-17 13:40:00)
EVGENI MALKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pat Stewart (Posted 2008-03-17 13:21:40)
What about Nicklas Lidstrom? He missed 8 games, the best team in the league dropped 7 of them, he comes back, they start winning and dominating again. What more proof do you need?
Bruce Miller (Posted 2008-03-17 13:18:19)
I feel the hart needs to go to Nick Lidstrom of the Detroit Red Wings hands down. He is the best player in the NHL and the proof is what happened to the wings when he was hurt and missed some games. The offensive numbers went down and defensive numbers suffered greatly. His game helps the offensive and defensive numbers. He is the best 2 way player in the league!
Crosby is way overrated! Malkin is the best player on that team not Crosby. If Lidstrom can't win I put my vote in for Ovechkin. He has a bery impressive year as well.
jean pique (Posted 2008-03-17 13:07:23)
You are the problem with the media. "If sydney crosby wasnt injured he would be the repeat hart trophy winner". Why?! Him being injured clearly illustrated why he SHOULDNT be considered for the hart. In his absence pittsburgh hasnt even skipped a beat, so how is crosby so valuable to his team? I think the whole crosby injury just illustrated how, although very talented, the pittsburgh penguins dont live and die by sidney crosby. The HART, is a player judged most valuable to his team, and crosby clearly does not fit that description, as even without him the penguins continue to win. Take luongo out of vancouver and they are in the steve stamkos sweepstakes. Take ovechkin out of washington, and they are in the steve stamkos sweepstakes. Take brodeur out of new jersey and they at best are battling for a playoff birth. Take sidney crosby out of pittsburgh, and the penguins are battling for the eastern conference title. I mean common guys...Crosby is good and all but he isnt the god of hockey that everyone makes him out to be. You journalists want to give him every award even before he does anything to deserve them. The guy could go on the ice, have one second assist (not even a first assist, the second assist) and you guys would be gushing about how he dominates the game, and controls the play, and is the best player in the nhl. Get out of here...I mean seriously. He may one day turn out the be the best player in the nhl, but right now he is not, and he certainly is nowhere near the most valuable to his team. Give ovechkin and malkin the credit they deserve. Right now, they are easily equally if not more talented then sidney crosby, and are certainly more valuable to their teams.
Isaac (Posted 2008-03-17 12:51:05)
Brodeur should win the Hart. I can't wait until Marty retires, then we'll finally see if Lou Lamoriello is really the hockey man we all believe him to be.
devon turner (Posted 2008-03-17 11:58:47)
GO IGINLA!!!!
james boston (Posted 2008-03-17 11:47:50)
Ovechkin will win the Hart IF the Caps make it into the play-offs.Only if they make it though.He's a hands down winner of the Lester B.Pearson award.No doubt about it.I have another candidate to consider:Marc Savard.He only has 14 goals and 63 assists.The Bruins have over-come a wealth of injuries(Bergeron,Alberts,Fernandez,Thomas,Axelsson,Murray,Chara) and yet the B's still compile points.Savard is the only constant on the Bruins and he deserves consideration.Without Savard.We're dead.You all know it as well.
Bobby Goodman (Posted 2008-03-17 11:38:40)
Hi Broph...you made some great choices there, but I have to go with Ovechkin; for the entire package...size, speed, skill and enthusiasm which he brings every game! He could be the greatest player who ever lived. The fact that Malkin is doing so much means that Crosby had a great supporting cast and there is no way he would have been awarded MVP this year. My choice is Oveckin and Luongo as a very close second!
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